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6C4C in PP (Loftin White)

The year 2018 is almost over. I promised myself that I would do another amplifier - a prototype. I have material in stock.
I plan to be finished by the end of the next week.

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Wow, is that an autoformer/center-tapped plate choke with ~2000H inductance? Or are you using two separate 530H chokes?

Each choke winding with DCR of 3.1k ohms, 16.66mA drawn across each, that's a lot of heat dissipated by the choke(s), is it not? Something like 0.86W dissipated in each winding?
 
Wow, is that an autoformer/center-tapped plate choke with ~2000H inductance? Or are you using two separate 530H chokes?

Each choke winding with DCR of 3.1k ohms, 16.66mA drawn across each, that's a lot of heat dissipated by the choke(s), is it not? Something like 0.86W dissipated in each winding?

because of the DC cancellation there is no need for a gap (or a very little one), so inductance goes up very fast! Just like a PP OPT vs a SE OPT.
 
Wow, that PP anode choke is a real beast. 500H per winding. Really nice. I wish there was someone in the US who was making something like that available commercially. (Maybe there is but I don't know about it?) '
 
Suggestion

As a suggestion, try removing the 100uF cap bypassing the 3k6 cathode resistor to the output stage. Put a 40uF pp cap from the B+ to the junction of the cathodes, ultrapath Elliano style. Might have to tweek the value but I found the sound much better than the present 100uF cap arrangement. Attached is Thorsten Loesch's drd pp with the suggested cap arrangement.

Great design by the way, simple and elegant.
 

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That's excellent.

I used to have a simpler version of that kind of amp running. It had a 5687 per channel, run as an LTP with CCS in the tail, with the primaries of a push-pull EL84 output transformer being used as plate loads for the 5687 LTP. That was then DC coupled to a pair of 2A3s in push-pull driving Tango NC-45-5 OPTs. It didn't have enough gain to be used without a preamplifier. I had that amp running for around 25 years, but then it started to make weird noises, so I retired it. It did have a very attractive sound, though.

Yours is a much more highly refined take on the idea. Really, really nice. I'll bet it sounds great.
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Those amplifiers look wonderful!
I bet they sound real good.

But . . .
I always thought that a Loftin-White amplifier was a single ended 2A3 with the driver DC coupled to the 2A3 grid.
I was looking at this thread to find a Loftin-White amplifier.

I did not know that a Loftin-White amplifier was push pull . . .

I guess I learn something every day.
 
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