Hi All
Has anyone tried or heard the 47 labs 0347 amplifier, I am interested in buying this and how do they compare with the gaincard or Shigaraki.
thanks
Audio_D
Has anyone tried or heard the 47 labs 0347 amplifier, I am interested in buying this and how do they compare with the gaincard or Shigaraki.
thanks
Audio_D
If you've ever seen the gaincard inside you'd know to stay away from these guys.
Just look at this: Mick Feuerbacher Audio Projects
Just look at this: Mick Feuerbacher Audio Projects
😱 Im totally shocked. I think Im in the wrong business. 
Has someone actually paid 3300 dollars for something worth maybe 80 dollars 😀😀😀
This is a new design though but still I see just a opamp and buffer. Hows the price of this one ??? 5000 $ 😀😀😀
My advice is this, build the same circuit yourself from easily available parts for around a tenth of the price and this includes fancy enclosures.
I need someone to teach me this business so I can sell my old tennis shoes for 3000 $ ........ 🙄😀😀😀
Has someone actually paid 3300 dollars for something worth maybe 80 dollars 😀😀😀
This is a new design though but still I see just a opamp and buffer. Hows the price of this one ??? 5000 $ 😀😀😀
My advice is this, build the same circuit yourself from easily available parts for around a tenth of the price and this includes fancy enclosures.
I need someone to teach me this business so I can sell my old tennis shoes for 3000 $ ........ 🙄😀😀😀
Yea its crazy, isent it ?
Maybe even the 60 bucks the ebay sellers sell these XY kits for is overprice, but then again the heatsink they include with them is prolly worth 60 bucks alone.
Maybe even the 60 bucks the ebay sellers sell these XY kits for is overprice, but then again the heatsink they include with them is prolly worth 60 bucks alone.
In high-end price is not related to cost but to what some idiot will pay for it. Besides, the factory is often no more than the kitchen table.
And the guy behind it is a cnc operator at some business, making the cases for his "products" afterhours after the place have closed for the day.
Oh Lordy! I had no idea. That is dismal in almost every respect. At least he has Rg going back to the right place.
Sorry guys but looks like you have no clue what you're talking about. 47 labs has been one of the most innovative companies around and japanese labor is expensive in small scale. So what that the chip costs $3.50? Can you do better without stealing his ideas (I.e cloning?) The subject was mulled over in thousands posts. Price in High End world is a marketing tool and only because most customers (us dear friends) are idiots who read fraudulent audio magazines and dream of cloning $100.000 products without having a clue about performance and their real quality . happy dreaming
Thanks for the responses.... well maybe your all right, I suppose what is shown in the pictures is what it is, nothing more than that and overpriced for the sum of parts..
I am not defending this product as I have never heard it however in my humble experience of some high end gear I know you will have to pay the premium for what you want (whether you have heard it or read bout it) and that's just how it goes.
so I am not sure "idiots" is the term I would use for purchasers of high end.
Audio is about personal flavors and tonality as well as good reproduction, I agree you don't have to spend a fortune (what ever that maybe) to get this but sometimes you do.
For reasons of practicality I would like a decent chip amp and the 47 labs just looked interesting for the money which I thought the price was under $1000.00. (correct me if I'm wrong). I had a shigaraki once for while which sounded sweet but i moved it on to try other gear.
what do you guys think of Audiozone, CI Audio.. are there any others Worth considering (the CI is actually way over by budget I was just interested in opinions)
Ta
Audio_D
I am not defending this product as I have never heard it however in my humble experience of some high end gear I know you will have to pay the premium for what you want (whether you have heard it or read bout it) and that's just how it goes.
so I am not sure "idiots" is the term I would use for purchasers of high end.
Audio is about personal flavors and tonality as well as good reproduction, I agree you don't have to spend a fortune (what ever that maybe) to get this but sometimes you do.
For reasons of practicality I would like a decent chip amp and the 47 labs just looked interesting for the money which I thought the price was under $1000.00. (correct me if I'm wrong). I had a shigaraki once for while which sounded sweet but i moved it on to try other gear.
what do you guys think of Audiozone, CI Audio.. are there any others Worth considering (the CI is actually way over by budget I was just interested in opinions)
Ta
Audio_D
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47 Labs does have some nice equipment, and Jeff Rowland also has paralleled LM3886 based amps that are priced even more...they sure are "purdy" tho.
The 47 Labs design was pretty much exactly what National Semiconductor proposed in their Application notes, that the point I couln't get past...
I look at some of the High end stuff with resale in mind, like a Automobile. It is near always a depreciating asset....a DIY LM3875 based amp may not fetch much, but there will alway be someone willing to take a Gaincard off your hands for a nice sum of cash.
The 47 Labs design was pretty much exactly what National Semiconductor proposed in their Application notes, that the point I couln't get past...
I look at some of the High end stuff with resale in mind, like a Automobile. It is near always a depreciating asset....a DIY LM3875 based amp may not fetch much, but there will alway be someone willing to take a Gaincard off your hands for a nice sum of cash.
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Absolutely, the exposure of the Gaincard\Shigeraki internals have not affected their market value, its the time spent designing and voicing these amps though various processes to the finished product is what we pay for
Simples!.
These guys havent designed anything, they just copy the application notes the manufacturer gives away for free. I m sorry I may seem a little offensive but my actual intent is for members to see reason. That guy is laughing his socks off at your back and expense thinking Ive just done another "idiot" in. 😉
AudioD, seriously now, get yourself something like cambridge model 340 or cambridge topaz which are chipamps if that is what youre looking for. They cost around 150-250 pounds and mod and voice them to your hearts content for another couple of quid. At these prices for what they offer is reasonable. Do not be fooled, a 3000 dollar design using the same schematic will not sound better.
AudioD, seriously now, get yourself something like cambridge model 340 or cambridge topaz which are chipamps if that is what youre looking for. They cost around 150-250 pounds and mod and voice them to your hearts content for another couple of quid. At these prices for what they offer is reasonable. Do not be fooled, a 3000 dollar design using the same schematic will not sound better.
The term "idiot" is maybe not very fortunate but that's how we behave and a splendor of ownership is as much if not more important than the sound and worth of given gear altogether. What I like about Kimura's designs is that he doesn't laugh into face of the customers , you're wrong here. He laughs into faces of high end estabilishment taking pieces of scrap from Radio Schack ,$3.50 regular chip amp or mechanism from boombox and making all this compete quite well with the high -end mainstream. I.e the emperor has no cloths. It's only possible in Audio business thanks to US , us dear friends , us idiots , us morons , us guided sheep. Can you imagine Yugo or any other cheap crappy car mimicking for BMW or Mercedes , no way anybody would get fooled. I agree that used Gaincard is a good investment .After all what we supposed to do ? Strap the granades to ourselves and visit all high end manufacturers? Heck, let them be..
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