The ultimatest compact disc turntable ever made?
Who have heard this model in combination with a top class DAC ?
here some URLs:
New Products - PiTracer CD Transport
Stereophile: 47 Laboratory 4704 PiTracer CD transport
SoundStage! Equipment Review - 47 Laboratory Model 4704 PiTracer CD Transport (5/2004)
47 Laboratories Factory Tour [English]
Who have heard this model in combination with a top class DAC ?
here some URLs:
New Products - PiTracer CD Transport
Stereophile: 47 Laboratory 4704 PiTracer CD transport
SoundStage! Equipment Review - 47 Laboratory Model 4704 PiTracer CD Transport (5/2004)
47 Laboratories Factory Tour [English]
What makes this a better solution than a PC with USB output to a USB ready DAC or a USB to digital convertor?
... that is the question.What makes this a better solution than a PC with USB output to a USB ready DAC or a USB to digital convertor?
What an ugly piece of gear.
Looks like somebody had a brainfart and couldn't wait to design it properly.
Originality yes - in asking 25 grand. For a cd reader.
Looks like somebody had a brainfart and couldn't wait to design it properly.
It's also why the PiTracer costs $25.000 USD -- it's a radical design that prohibits mass production.
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/47lab_pitracer.htmEven if you think that PiTracer is the CD transport that Rube Goldberg would build, it's hard not to respect the originality of its design.
Originality yes - in asking 25 grand. For a cd reader.
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Who'll be the first to try a clone?
PiClone anyone?
Fran
Hi Fran,
I suspect underneath it all we would probably find it is not too different than the Shigaclone we know and like so well.. 😀 (Same mechanism and chipset in all likelihood.)
Hi Fran,
I suspect underneath it all we would probably find it is not too different than the Shigaclone we know and like so well.. 😀 (Same mechanism and chipset in all likelihood.)
In view of the price class I would have assumed more, that the
JVC EXU-901A Transport mechanism was inside:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...ch-ct-1-ct1-better-than-vam1254-cdpro2lf.html
But obviously it isn't, instead of this the mechanism from JVC Boom-Box RC-EZ31A (Sanyo "SF-P 101N").
In case of CD player clones from 47 Lab I have found some URLs, that I have just found but still not explicit study:
http://www.audiostereo.pl/forum_wpisy.html?temat=36475&p=1#k
http://www.audiostereo.pl/forum_wpisy.html?temat=36475&p=5
(at whole 75 pages)
RC-EZ31 manual
(Service Manual JVC RC-EZ31A - Sanyo "SF-P 101N" mechanism for 47lab clones - really inside by 47lab ??)
CD Transport DIY
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http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...affordable-cd-transport-shigaclone-story.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...affordable-cd-transport-shigaclone-story.html
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Anywhere in one of this mentioned forums was claim, that the most used SF-P101N mechanism could be much more better than the CD-Pro2 (VAM1254) from daisylaser.
Concerning the laser Unit (optical pickup) type Sanyo "SF-P 101N" this could be realy true. But concerning the cheap brushed motor instead a hall motor this is hard to believe.
I would be shocked, when for PiTracer would be a such an ordinary brushed motor from Mabuchi in use.
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"The spindle motor to rotate the disc is a coreless 9 pole motor. This motor has a small inertia and very efficient which is most suitable for CD transport that has to change the speed from 500 to 200 rotations in about a minute and also has to repeat stop and go in a micro scale.
This motor is directly attached to the baseboard that weighs almost 10kgm. By the way, the platter weighs about 90grm with a CD on, so the ratio of the mass of the rotating part and the baseboard is over 100 times which, I suppose, would be sufficient."
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I read follow:
"The spindle motor to rotate the disc is a coreless 9 pole motor. This motor has a small inertia and very efficient which is most suitable for CD transport that has to change the speed from 500 to 200 rotations in about a minute and also has to repeat stop and go in a micro scale.
This motor is directly attached to the baseboard that weighs almost 10kgm. By the way, the platter weighs about 90grm with a CD on, so the ratio of the mass of the rotating part and the baseboard is over 100 times which, I suppose, would be sufficient."
Which laser head is in use?
Any news about that?Who'll be the first to try a clone?
PiClone anyone?
Fran
The sheer level of complexity of the mechanics of this probably puts it way beyond the reach of most DIYers, and certainly would prevent it being a popular build.
The shiga still continues to perform excellently for me on a daily basis.
The shiga still continues to perform excellently for me on a daily basis.
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I read follow:
"The spindle motor to rotate the disc is a coreless 9 pole motor. This motor has a small inertia and very efficient which is most suitable for CD transport that has to change the speed from 500 to 200 rotations in about a minute and also has to repeat stop and go in a micro scale.
This motor is directly attached to the baseboard that weighs almost 10kgm. By the way, the platter weighs about 90grm with a CD on, so the ratio of the mass of the rotating part and the baseboard is over 100 times which, I suppose, would be sufficient."
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