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I might be able to buy some dirt-cheap 320x240 transreflexive LCD-panels, and i was thinking.. what about splitting up an lightsource through 3 RGB filters, reflect the coloured light on the lcd's and merge it back to a single beam again (advanced optics :-/ ), could this be possible?
320x240 should be enough for movies/TV, and since i want it to be small sized i dont want to use those OH lcd's.
Edit: Another idea popped up in my head, could the reflective layer at the back be removed? I know i did that to an old 7-segment lcd, and that worked.
Link to the lcd: http://www.elfa.se/elfa/produkter/se/20/2022749.htm
In swedish though, but none of the relevant info should be hard to understand.
I might be able to buy some dirt-cheap 320x240 transreflexive LCD-panels, and i was thinking.. what about splitting up an lightsource through 3 RGB filters, reflect the coloured light on the lcd's and merge it back to a single beam again (advanced optics :-/ ), could this be possible?
320x240 should be enough for movies/TV, and since i want it to be small sized i dont want to use those OH lcd's.
Edit: Another idea popped up in my head, could the reflective layer at the back be removed? I know i did that to an old 7-segment lcd, and that worked.
Link to the lcd: http://www.elfa.se/elfa/produkter/se/20/2022749.htm
In swedish though, but none of the relevant info should be hard to understand.
I think it is possible...
If I understand you correctly, it can be done, and it has.
www.sonystyle.ca/grandwega
If you click around on this flash-demo-thing, there is a model of the 3 panels and the mirrors, etc. I have no idea if it's just a conceptual model or not.
Anyway, it can be done...
Let us know if you can get something to work...
If I understand you correctly, it can be done, and it has.
www.sonystyle.ca/grandwega
If you click around on this flash-demo-thing, there is a model of the 3 panels and the mirrors, etc. I have no idea if it's just a conceptual model or not.
Anyway, it can be done...
Let us know if you can get something to work...
I don't think those will work well...
But, let me throw this out and see if anyone has another viewpoint:
The original intention of having this type of lcd is to conserve power in portable devices like PDA's, cell-phone's and Digital Camera viewfinder's. This type of panel is good at conserving precious wattage in the portable's battery by reflecting ambient light (sun, lamps, ceiling light's, etc.,...) through the panel so that you can see your picture much longer and go further without a recharge. When you are in total dark the backlight will come on. Or, in some situation in-between the back-light will automatically vary it's intensity in direct proportion to the ambient light falling on it.
The reflective backing, being removeable, is something I have no clue on (or if it's actually a backing). It may be cemented to the COG (chip on glass) lcd or embedded in the glass or by some other means that would hamper removal. It may even be the individual pixel itself with the properties of a "half-mirror". OR, it is indeed removeable and you CAN pass light through it.
If either of the first two are the case, it would be the same as a 320(960?)x234 transmissive lcd panel, except it wouldn't be as bright. I believe I have seen that the percentage of transmissive to reflective is 70% to 30%, respectively. If this is the case then my guess is that it will take more light to project the same intensity image from a purely transmissive lcd panel. Possibly 30% more light. But, I don't know exactly where the reflective properties come into hand and rob you of this light or if they actually do.
If that was a totally absurd assumption on my part, then my next thing to say would be that this panel with the reflective backing taken off would merely have the same characteristic's of a conventional transmissive panel and I know we can purchase a higher resolution than 320x240 for probably the same if not less than the transreflective's cost ( a quick search, $92US for the panel and $354US for the controller board for this panel from Sweden, manufactured by Seiko and according to a currency converter at xe.com). We know of (at least) one small panel available currently (1.8" Unipac's #18d11) that costs $169 from AVDeals with a 528x220 resolution. So, we would be better to go with the Unipac, at least in this case.
There is another panel called a Reflective lcd panel and Kopin's MicroDisplay's utilizes this technology. They are great panels that give a good black-image value that is superior to the transmissive types most of us use, if not all transmissive's. However, only the cheap low-res versions (100:1 Contrast ratio) are available (320x240 or less ~$100US, 24bit color for each pixel). As the SVGA are at least $500-600 (Cy-visor VR glasses) they seem to prohibit DIY experimentation.
(I am thoroughly exhausted now! How about you?...ha-ha!)
Anyone care to research the Reflective and Trans-Reflective technologies and explain to us their physical make-up and how they work? Maybe a presentation with nice pictures and bar-graphs and a machine that goes "Ping!", ho-ho-ho.
A .PDF file! Reflective panel with 320x240 resolution. 24bit color for each pixel! Only 100:1 contrast, though
But, let me throw this out and see if anyone has another viewpoint:
The original intention of having this type of lcd is to conserve power in portable devices like PDA's, cell-phone's and Digital Camera viewfinder's. This type of panel is good at conserving precious wattage in the portable's battery by reflecting ambient light (sun, lamps, ceiling light's, etc.,...) through the panel so that you can see your picture much longer and go further without a recharge. When you are in total dark the backlight will come on. Or, in some situation in-between the back-light will automatically vary it's intensity in direct proportion to the ambient light falling on it.
The reflective backing, being removeable, is something I have no clue on (or if it's actually a backing). It may be cemented to the COG (chip on glass) lcd or embedded in the glass or by some other means that would hamper removal. It may even be the individual pixel itself with the properties of a "half-mirror". OR, it is indeed removeable and you CAN pass light through it.
If either of the first two are the case, it would be the same as a 320(960?)x234 transmissive lcd panel, except it wouldn't be as bright. I believe I have seen that the percentage of transmissive to reflective is 70% to 30%, respectively. If this is the case then my guess is that it will take more light to project the same intensity image from a purely transmissive lcd panel. Possibly 30% more light. But, I don't know exactly where the reflective properties come into hand and rob you of this light or if they actually do.
If that was a totally absurd assumption on my part, then my next thing to say would be that this panel with the reflective backing taken off would merely have the same characteristic's of a conventional transmissive panel and I know we can purchase a higher resolution than 320x240 for probably the same if not less than the transreflective's cost ( a quick search, $92US for the panel and $354US for the controller board for this panel from Sweden, manufactured by Seiko and according to a currency converter at xe.com). We know of (at least) one small panel available currently (1.8" Unipac's #18d11) that costs $169 from AVDeals with a 528x220 resolution. So, we would be better to go with the Unipac, at least in this case.
There is another panel called a Reflective lcd panel and Kopin's MicroDisplay's utilizes this technology. They are great panels that give a good black-image value that is superior to the transmissive types most of us use, if not all transmissive's. However, only the cheap low-res versions (100:1 Contrast ratio) are available (320x240 or less ~$100US, 24bit color for each pixel). As the SVGA are at least $500-600 (Cy-visor VR glasses) they seem to prohibit DIY experimentation.
(I am thoroughly exhausted now! How about you?...ha-ha!)
Anyone care to research the Reflective and Trans-Reflective technologies and explain to us their physical make-up and how they work? Maybe a presentation with nice pictures and bar-graphs and a machine that goes "Ping!", ho-ho-ho.
A .PDF file! Reflective panel with 320x240 resolution. 24bit color for each pixel! Only 100:1 contrast, though
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