I joined this forum back in 2005 and got a lot of advice and enjoyed being a forum member. In 2006 my brother made the mistake of introducing me to the world of Linux. At first I thought what is this strange Operating System and it took me about a month to in away reprogram my brain to the way Linux worked verses Windows. I can tell you Linux drove me crazy and way back in 2006 at times a battle to get my Hardware working. In doing so Linux taught me a lot about how a Computer worked. Today Linux is a very different beast with many versions like Mint, Ubuntu being a simple 7 click install and great support for hardware out of the box.
OK now to why I'm posting. Computer Waste! or should I say perfectly working Hardware with a tired out of date Operating System on it called Windows 98, Me and XP. Since 2007 I've been developing a Operating System call Legacy OS Linux designed for those old computers, refining it with every new release with over 130,000 free downloads over the years. Yes I've been quite on this forum and now you know why.
This month I released Legacy OS 2.1 LTS which comes preinstalled with around 150 Applications (Programs) including a number of PCB / Audio applications to use. You can install it or run it live of the CD. With the help of a program called Wine it's possible to run a number of splice Programs etc originally made for Windows 98, Me and XP. So if your shiny new Windows 7 and 8 computer won't let you run your trusty old software package maybe with help from me Legacy OS will.
Legacy OS has always been made available for free download and you can find it here DistroWatch.com: Legacy OS
While you're there you can visit my home page.
So drag that old dusty PC out of the cupboard and turn it in to something very useful for more than just audio related stuff. You can use it on the Internet (Virus Free) I'm doing it right now posting on this forum, Play games, Music, Graphics and so much more. I've been Windows free for 8 years now and love the fact that my computer will never control me worrying about viruses and everything Windows Users have to worry about. Here a picture of the Desktop, very Windows User friendly.
OK now to why I'm posting. Computer Waste! or should I say perfectly working Hardware with a tired out of date Operating System on it called Windows 98, Me and XP. Since 2007 I've been developing a Operating System call Legacy OS Linux designed for those old computers, refining it with every new release with over 130,000 free downloads over the years. Yes I've been quite on this forum and now you know why.
This month I released Legacy OS 2.1 LTS which comes preinstalled with around 150 Applications (Programs) including a number of PCB / Audio applications to use. You can install it or run it live of the CD. With the help of a program called Wine it's possible to run a number of splice Programs etc originally made for Windows 98, Me and XP. So if your shiny new Windows 7 and 8 computer won't let you run your trusty old software package maybe with help from me Legacy OS will.
Legacy OS has always been made available for free download and you can find it here DistroWatch.com: Legacy OS
While you're there you can visit my home page.
So drag that old dusty PC out of the cupboard and turn it in to something very useful for more than just audio related stuff. You can use it on the Internet (Virus Free) I'm doing it right now posting on this forum, Play games, Music, Graphics and so much more. I've been Windows free for 8 years now and love the fact that my computer will never control me worrying about viruses and everything Windows Users have to worry about. Here a picture of the Desktop, very Windows User friendly.
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Very cool!!!
I will check it out, I have several old machines (PIII's mostly) that range from 200 to 1Ghz and are all still working and running with MS stuff!! 😉
I have used Puppy Linux on a my 1Ghz machine and it worked. 🙂
jer 😀
I will check it out, I have several old machines (PIII's mostly) that range from 200 to 1Ghz and are all still working and running with MS stuff!! 😉
I have used Puppy Linux on a my 1Ghz machine and it worked. 🙂
jer 😀
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Hello geraldfryjr,
If your a Puppy Linux user then you know Legacy OS is built on top of Puppy. I work in a Movie Cinema and I've setup a Pentium II running Legacy OS for our Foyer Music. The PC is 14 years old and on 24 hours a day. Its been playing random MP3's for 2 years now and hasn't missed a beat.
geraldfryjr you might be pleasantly surprised at how well those old PC's will run.
Legacy OS 2.1 LTS by default gives you over 50 games, will run old DOS games like "The Need For Speed". You also get lots of Drawing and CAD Programs as well as Multimedia software to convert different formats play video's. The amount of software included is going to amaze you. This is a real free legal replacement for Windows. Also included is the Opera 12 web browser with Flashplayer, Java and codecs to give you an acceptable on line experience on an old Pentium III PC. Something Windows 98 can no longer do.
I hope more of you give Legacy OS a go. Feel free to post any questions you might have.
If your a Puppy Linux user then you know Legacy OS is built on top of Puppy. I work in a Movie Cinema and I've setup a Pentium II running Legacy OS for our Foyer Music. The PC is 14 years old and on 24 hours a day. Its been playing random MP3's for 2 years now and hasn't missed a beat.
geraldfryjr you might be pleasantly surprised at how well those old PC's will run.
Legacy OS 2.1 LTS by default gives you over 50 games, will run old DOS games like "The Need For Speed". You also get lots of Drawing and CAD Programs as well as Multimedia software to convert different formats play video's. The amount of software included is going to amaze you. This is a real free legal replacement for Windows. Also included is the Opera 12 web browser with Flashplayer, Java and codecs to give you an acceptable on line experience on an old Pentium III PC. Something Windows 98 can no longer do.
I hope more of you give Legacy OS a go. Feel free to post any questions you might have.
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I like this distro...It works Great!!
I think I was using the previous version as well, I will have to go through my CD to verify this.
I have only two small issues so far.
First ALSA is not recognizing my sound card (Gina24) I have had this issue before with a few other Distro's and somehow got it working later by installing the proper driver.
Second I would like to have 24bit true color mode and this is only available in a lower resolution mode or a very high resolution mode.
My monitor is capable of such resolutions but I like 1600x1200 as this gives me the best results without everything being to small to read.
I did use the highest setting and I was amazed at how well the magnifier works compared to MS's version!!
I am not into games so they don't mean anything to me.
Most all of the graphic programs I have used before and they work great and are very fast as expected.
Gimp was quite nice in the Hi-Res mode.
I haven't really worked with the Electronic CAD packages much before, but I did notice that the one has the component spice list's included with each part as well,this is great!
Can schematics drawn with it and be ported into a spice program like LTSpice and be simulated?
I am glad to see Gambas included as I have been wanting to learn how to use it.
Also I would like to see Wine included as well, although I know this was mean't to be a small Distro.
I have used LTSpice and Circuitmaker under Wine without any issues before.
Audacity looked great and is one of the few times that I have used it under linux where it was displayed properly, Now to get my sound card working.
I would be nice if Wine could recognize the MS windows sound calls then I could use Holm's and a few other sound programs that I use, else I wouldn't need MS windows at all!
I was testing it on my Opty185 2.9Ghz and I played with it for about 4 hours in Live CD mode and I couldn't get it to lockup or crash as I have done with other Distro's before.
The only issue I had was when I had two games running and I had a hard time getting them to close, but they eventually recovered and I got them to close.
The OS stayed stable throughout the whole session and I kept on exploring through it.
I couldn't get Chrome to install, it was either an installer issue or a version issue as I am a newbie when it comes to having to do such things manually.
But, I was very amazed that I could even get on Facebook with Opera.
It wasn't being displayed exactly right and scrolling was very very limited, but it worked.
This is a very hard test to get through anyhow as it takes me a very very long time to type a simple sentence on FB using my 200Mhz and 400Mhz machines with Foxfire.
Google search and other web sites were just fine, I didn't try Youtube because I had no sound.
I will give it a try on my 1Ghz PIII later and let you know how it goes.
Those older machines do have a lot of potential still and it Erk's me every time MS has to make the same ole' functions and OS's so much more complicated that it bogs the system down forcing everyone to have to invest in a faster machine!
This is just plain nonsense!!!
I keep my old machines because it very easy to interface to the ISA bus even though it is only clocked at 8Mhz.
And, I want to use them to start learning x86 assembly programming as well as for strictly programming MCU's and other stuff.
This way it doesn't get lost in all of the other stuff I have installed or at the risk of losing everything due to a crash or virus, I have had this happen several times before.
They can still be very fast for an app that doesn't rely on MS's extreme overhead.
One of the main reasons I like Linux so much!
I have just started to get back into programming since the days when the 8bit machines ruled the world!! 😉
Something else that MS made difficult for everyone back in the 90's.
Going back to 98, The PIII's I have boot up three times faster that my FX-6300 does running at 4.8Ghz using XP or Win7!!! 😉
Even though I have a newer machine I still use this old Opty for everything.
I have XP and Win7 on the FX-6300, but, I do mainly use linux on it.
I keep threatening to use it has my main machine but this Ole' Opty just keeps chugging along and I can't get any of my good 24bit sound cards to install because of the UEFI bios. 🙁
I need them because I also do recording with a multi-track system.
Thanks!!! 🙂
jer 😉
I think I was using the previous version as well, I will have to go through my CD to verify this.
I have only two small issues so far.
First ALSA is not recognizing my sound card (Gina24) I have had this issue before with a few other Distro's and somehow got it working later by installing the proper driver.
Second I would like to have 24bit true color mode and this is only available in a lower resolution mode or a very high resolution mode.
My monitor is capable of such resolutions but I like 1600x1200 as this gives me the best results without everything being to small to read.
I did use the highest setting and I was amazed at how well the magnifier works compared to MS's version!!
I am not into games so they don't mean anything to me.
Most all of the graphic programs I have used before and they work great and are very fast as expected.
Gimp was quite nice in the Hi-Res mode.
I haven't really worked with the Electronic CAD packages much before, but I did notice that the one has the component spice list's included with each part as well,this is great!
Can schematics drawn with it and be ported into a spice program like LTSpice and be simulated?
I am glad to see Gambas included as I have been wanting to learn how to use it.
Also I would like to see Wine included as well, although I know this was mean't to be a small Distro.
I have used LTSpice and Circuitmaker under Wine without any issues before.
Audacity looked great and is one of the few times that I have used it under linux where it was displayed properly, Now to get my sound card working.
I would be nice if Wine could recognize the MS windows sound calls then I could use Holm's and a few other sound programs that I use, else I wouldn't need MS windows at all!
I was testing it on my Opty185 2.9Ghz and I played with it for about 4 hours in Live CD mode and I couldn't get it to lockup or crash as I have done with other Distro's before.
The only issue I had was when I had two games running and I had a hard time getting them to close, but they eventually recovered and I got them to close.
The OS stayed stable throughout the whole session and I kept on exploring through it.
I couldn't get Chrome to install, it was either an installer issue or a version issue as I am a newbie when it comes to having to do such things manually.
But, I was very amazed that I could even get on Facebook with Opera.
It wasn't being displayed exactly right and scrolling was very very limited, but it worked.
This is a very hard test to get through anyhow as it takes me a very very long time to type a simple sentence on FB using my 200Mhz and 400Mhz machines with Foxfire.
Google search and other web sites were just fine, I didn't try Youtube because I had no sound.
I will give it a try on my 1Ghz PIII later and let you know how it goes.
Those older machines do have a lot of potential still and it Erk's me every time MS has to make the same ole' functions and OS's so much more complicated that it bogs the system down forcing everyone to have to invest in a faster machine!
This is just plain nonsense!!!
I keep my old machines because it very easy to interface to the ISA bus even though it is only clocked at 8Mhz.
And, I want to use them to start learning x86 assembly programming as well as for strictly programming MCU's and other stuff.
This way it doesn't get lost in all of the other stuff I have installed or at the risk of losing everything due to a crash or virus, I have had this happen several times before.
They can still be very fast for an app that doesn't rely on MS's extreme overhead.
One of the main reasons I like Linux so much!
I have just started to get back into programming since the days when the 8bit machines ruled the world!! 😉
Something else that MS made difficult for everyone back in the 90's.
Going back to 98, The PIII's I have boot up three times faster that my FX-6300 does running at 4.8Ghz using XP or Win7!!! 😉
Even though I have a newer machine I still use this old Opty for everything.
I have XP and Win7 on the FX-6300, but, I do mainly use linux on it.
I keep threatening to use it has my main machine but this Ole' Opty just keeps chugging along and I can't get any of my good 24bit sound cards to install because of the UEFI bios. 🙁
I need them because I also do recording with a multi-track system.
Thanks!!! 🙂
jer 😉
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Hello geraldfryjr,
In the Applications menu select Setup > Wizard > Configure Soundcard (Alsa) and see if the wizard finds your soundcard.
When you setup up the screen size do you use Xorg or Xvesa ?
I added Wine to the small repository at SourceForge where you downloaded the iso
Because Legacy OS 2.1 LTS is built on top of a 7 year old core applications like Firefox and Chrome won't work. Users have reported success with the Windows version of Firefox running under Wine.
Note: Also available is Legacy OS 4 Mini which is built on a newer core so has better support for newer hardware and includes Firefox. I'm working on an update of that version at the moment.
I use Legacy OS 2.1 LTS for 99% of my computer tasks and know how stable it is. Hopefully others reading your post will give it a go and see how useful it can be enjoy.
Lastly if Opera downloaded Wine and names it wine-1.3.7-i486.gz you'll need to rename it to wine-1.3.7-i486.pet or it won't install. To install just click on it. See readme/ install guide at SourceForge to install other applications finishing with the tar.gz prefix
In the Applications menu select Setup > Wizard > Configure Soundcard (Alsa) and see if the wizard finds your soundcard.
When you setup up the screen size do you use Xorg or Xvesa ?
I added Wine to the small repository at SourceForge where you downloaded the iso
Because Legacy OS 2.1 LTS is built on top of a 7 year old core applications like Firefox and Chrome won't work. Users have reported success with the Windows version of Firefox running under Wine.
Note: Also available is Legacy OS 4 Mini which is built on a newer core so has better support for newer hardware and includes Firefox. I'm working on an update of that version at the moment.
I use Legacy OS 2.1 LTS for 99% of my computer tasks and know how stable it is. Hopefully others reading your post will give it a go and see how useful it can be enjoy.
Lastly if Opera downloaded Wine and names it wine-1.3.7-i486.gz you'll need to rename it to wine-1.3.7-i486.pet or it won't install. To install just click on it. See readme/ install guide at SourceForge to install other applications finishing with the tar.gz prefix
I recently upgraded to an Intel i7 processor and motherboard.
I was a little upset to find it wouldn't run XP.
The XP setup wouldn't drive my motherboard and crashed out.
This is a pain because I was still using a couple of 16 bit software packages that I had come to get to know very well and they were very useful. These wont run on Win 7, Vista or Win 8.
I was a little upset to find it wouldn't run XP.
The XP setup wouldn't drive my motherboard and crashed out.
This is a pain because I was still using a couple of 16 bit software packages that I had come to get to know very well and they were very useful. These wont run on Win 7, Vista or Win 8.
There is a Win 7 version (Professional I think) that has an XP mode. It works pretty well. Also running a WIN 98 virtual PC mode. Also works well if you don't have a really specific video card performance requirement. Savage S3 is all it does.
I had this problem with XP a few years ago which is why I ended up running Win 7 on my media server. (Quad core Athlon)
Yes, I tried all 5 of the drivers that were listed in ALSA, But since I will most likely be using this on my PIII's, I have SB sound cards for them so it shouldn't be much of an issue.
I normally use one of the more recent Bigger Distro's on this Opty such as Mint or Ubuntu Studios and my more recent favorite Ultimate Edition versions without such issues.
Thanks for the Tip's on Wine I will look into it, It is very interesting to find the you can run Firefox's window's version under it!!
However it is a Great Package as it is and I urge anybody to give it a try.
I had to use the Xvesa driver to get to the higher resolution formats for my 7600GS video card.
I will be looking forward to trying out your latest revisions when they are ready.
Cheers!!
jer 🙂
I normally use one of the more recent Bigger Distro's on this Opty such as Mint or Ubuntu Studios and my more recent favorite Ultimate Edition versions without such issues.
Thanks for the Tip's on Wine I will look into it, It is very interesting to find the you can run Firefox's window's version under it!!
However it is a Great Package as it is and I urge anybody to give it a try.
I had to use the Xvesa driver to get to the higher resolution formats for my 7600GS video card.
I will be looking forward to trying out your latest revisions when they are ready.
Cheers!!
jer 🙂
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I had the same problem a few years ago when I purchased my first i7 motherboard, and tried to install XP using the original Microsoft CD. After searching Technet, I found the solution:
1) Copy the contents of the original XP CD to a hard drive.
2) Slipstream XP SP3, which means, apply SP3 enhancements to that image
3) Burn the Slipstreamed image to a CD-R
There are several articles on the web explaining the process. Here is one example:
Creating an XP SP3 slipstreamed ISO file | ZDNet
You must burn the ISO image to a CD or make a bootable USB drive and then reboot your computer using one of the two.
For CD's and DVD's I use a program called ImgBurn, You can also use Nero or most any other CD burning software.
I have used Win7's utility with great success as well.
The Official ImgBurn Website
For a Bootable USB I use Rufus, It is the only software that I have found to create a Bootable USB drive that works with my machine that has a UEFI Bios.
Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
There is also Unetbootin some have good luck with it and I have used it before, but lately I haven't been able to get it to work properly, Your Mileage May Vary.
UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads
You cannot mount the ISO with a virtual CD drive and make it run in windows.
The machine must boot from the ISO and then you can use it without having to install it on a your hard drive as it resides completely in RAM.
This is true with all Linux Distro's.
However if you use something like VMWare then you should be able to run it in a virtual machine environment.
I hope that helps you.
Cheers !!
jer 🙂
For CD's and DVD's I use a program called ImgBurn, You can also use Nero or most any other CD burning software.
I have used Win7's utility with great success as well.
The Official ImgBurn Website
For a Bootable USB I use Rufus, It is the only software that I have found to create a Bootable USB drive that works with my machine that has a UEFI Bios.
Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
There is also Unetbootin some have good luck with it and I have used it before, but lately I haven't been able to get it to work properly, Your Mileage May Vary.
UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads
You cannot mount the ISO with a virtual CD drive and make it run in windows.
The machine must boot from the ISO and then you can use it without having to install it on a your hard drive as it resides completely in RAM.
This is true with all Linux Distro's.
However if you use something like VMWare then you should be able to run it in a virtual machine environment.
I hope that helps you.
Cheers !!
jer 🙂
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I burned this iso with Nero ,then i choose boot from cd rom(bios settings)but nothing ,no boot🙁
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It does take a while to boot up.
At first I thought it was a fail as well but it did finally boot.
And you also may need to set up the video first as I remember by using the Xorgwizard command.
I am not sure if you can just start the app by typing Xwin without setting up Xorg but you can give it a try.
You will find these instructions once you start and go through the Xorgwizard.
I had to switch to the Xvesa driver in order to get my video card to work.
jer 🙂
At first I thought it was a fail as well but it did finally boot.
And you also may need to set up the video first as I remember by using the Xorgwizard command.
I am not sure if you can just start the app by typing Xwin without setting up Xorg but you can give it a try.
You will find these instructions once you start and go through the Xorgwizard.
I had to switch to the Xvesa driver in order to get my video card to work.
jer 🙂
Hello JMB,
Legacy OS 2.1 LTS will run arta only after installing the Wine package from here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyoslinux/files/Legacy OS 2.1 LTS Extra Packages/
If you really get Legacy OS 2.1 LTS installed on an old PC let me know if you need help.
Legacy OS 2.1 LTS will run arta only after installing the Wine package from here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyoslinux/files/Legacy OS 2.1 LTS Extra Packages/
If you really get Legacy OS 2.1 LTS installed on an old PC let me know if you need help.
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I initially couldn't install XP to a new motherboard until I set the boot drive SATA3 port to legacy mode. Several minutes into the install when it would try to copy files to the hard disk it would blue screen. Got it running but there were no drivers for USB or network. Also tried Linux Mint Mate and it ran perfectly. Wine is very good nowadays for running Windows programs. Most stuff just runs with no trouble at all.
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