i was wondering what the cons are of a sound system with 2 boxes would be. i have 3 15" subs and the easiest way to fit them into my truck is to have 2 in a sealed enclosure and one in a ported box. would this cause any major problems sound wise or should i just do 2 sealed enclosures?
thanks ahead of time,
p.s. this is my first post, i'm fresh to the forum
thanks ahead of time,
p.s. this is my first post, i'm fresh to the forum
welcome to the forum.
can you put two in a sealed box and the third in another smaller sealed box? You should try to stay away from mixing and matching different boxes or speakers. It's not good practice to do so. You'll get different sound from both boxes and I'm willing to bet it won't integrate well with the rest of your system.
Why not just use two of them? two 15's will still put out quite a bit of bass.
can you put two in a sealed box and the third in another smaller sealed box? You should try to stay away from mixing and matching different boxes or speakers. It's not good practice to do so. You'll get different sound from both boxes and I'm willing to bet it won't integrate well with the rest of your system.
Why not just use two of them? two 15's will still put out quite a bit of bass.
ECM said:
i second that idea. it would be better to just use 2 15" subs in the correct size enclosure with the right amount of power. plus you might have room left to actually put stuff in your trunk when you need to.😀
A well designed single 15" sub enclosure will out do three poorly built ones! A sub will need room to breath, too much in a trunk will cause cancellation problems. Here was my approach to a single system and I will be redoing it again with my finalized box ( last picture.). Polo..
impsick said:
+1
If you must have all three 15" subs, I would build 3 separate sealed boxes, put them into the trunk, then bolt them all together.
As stated above, and depending on the size of your trunk, you may have cancellation problems. In other words.. "too much box and not enough trunk."
its a decently sized SUV and i'm really hung up on 3 subs so i guess i'll go sealed for quality and smaller size. my next question would be 3 single enclosures and not a triple?
like i said, i like separate enclosures for my subs.
3 15's is allot for a car. what are you gonna use for mids and highs?
i bet eventually you'll decide 3 15's is more then needed or need more space in your vehicle and take out a 15 or 2, so may as well build them separately so you can pull them out as desired too.
3 15's is allot for a car. what are you gonna use for mids and highs?
i bet eventually you'll decide 3 15's is more then needed or need more space in your vehicle and take out a 15 or 2, so may as well build them separately so you can pull them out as desired too.
3 subs are great; I have personally always liked the odd number setups. Remember that 3-4 subs (or more), during everyday listening will be working less than the same volume where 1 or 2 subs is used.
This is what I recommend:
Do not mix ported and sealed encloses in the same car. You will loose SPL because the wave forms will different between sealed and ported, the different wave forms will not align and cause cancellation. Some people may think I am crazy and it wont have much of an affect but I have spent a great deal of time and effort experimenting with wave alignment for SQ/SPL and I have NEVER found a benefit for the very susceptible low Hz in doing anything that can alter a wave from another sub in a controlled environment (car for instance).
Do not mix sub sizes…..for the same above reason.
Do not have different sized boxes…..again for the same reason
Have all of your subs in the same plane….unless you have frequency alignment processors and STILL only want a small frequency range.
This is what I recommend:
Do not mix ported and sealed encloses in the same car. You will loose SPL because the wave forms will different between sealed and ported, the different wave forms will not align and cause cancellation. Some people may think I am crazy and it wont have much of an affect but I have spent a great deal of time and effort experimenting with wave alignment for SQ/SPL and I have NEVER found a benefit for the very susceptible low Hz in doing anything that can alter a wave from another sub in a controlled environment (car for instance).
Do not mix sub sizes…..for the same above reason.
Do not have different sized boxes…..again for the same reason
Have all of your subs in the same plane….unless you have frequency alignment processors and STILL only want a small frequency range.
cool, thanks
it's a done deal. i'll do 3 seperate boxes all the same specs and on the same plane i'm hoping. and as for the midsand highs i have 2 sets of jbl 6.5 gti series components and a set of 6.5 full ranges for my center speaker. all jbl power series amps (total of 4) i especially like sub amp because it wasmade by crown for jbl
anyways, thanks for the advice
it's a done deal. i'll do 3 seperate boxes all the same specs and on the same plane i'm hoping. and as for the midsand highs i have 2 sets of jbl 6.5 gti series components and a set of 6.5 full ranges for my center speaker. all jbl power series amps (total of 4) i especially like sub amp because it wasmade by crown for jbl
anyways, thanks for the advice
cool post some pics when your done,
thats interesting about the sub amp. i would have guessed jbl made it for crown since crown doesn't specialize in car audio. Not that they couldn't make a car amp. i think crown might actually be owned by harman Kardon also. im gonna check on that
thats interesting about the sub amp. i would have guessed jbl made it for crown since crown doesn't specialize in car audio. Not that they couldn't make a car amp. i think crown might actually be owned by harman Kardon also. im gonna check on that
it will be a while before i get it set up and running, but whenever i do get it going i'll get the pics up.
never knew crown was just a tree in a forest. i thought they were there own independent elite company.
never knew crown was just a tree in a forest. i thought they were there own independent elite company.
Still elite just under a much larger elite corporation. 😀
You ever look at all the companies under Harmen?
You ever look at all the companies under Harmen?
Harmen
- AKG, BSS Audio, Crown, Digitech, JBL, Lexicon, DBX, DOD,
Soundcraft, Studer, Infinity, Harmon Kardon, Becker, Revel,
Mark Levinson, AudioAccess, QNX and a couple other names!!!
Impressive monopoly.
- AKG, BSS Audio, Crown, Digitech, JBL, Lexicon, DBX, DOD,
Soundcraft, Studer, Infinity, Harmon Kardon, Becker, Revel,
Mark Levinson, AudioAccess, QNX and a couple other names!!!
Impressive monopoly.
I have four 12s IB into my back seat. They don't work hard at all normal listening...they hardly move and make 30Hz easily. They are too much for me, I crank them up with only 420rms on them and all I hear is bass and back of car shakes....whole car shakes and they are not even close to xmax. However I'm going to swap them for maybe two light 15s because they are too heavy in my little car.
I mean, I like the bass but don't want to make my highs go much louder so I can do without some of that extra rumble if I have to. If I find some efficient 15s I hope it will perform near the same. Maybe one 18 even or 6-8 10s....not sure yet but likely twin 15s because I'd have more amp room. And the 12s only take maybe 5" off the seat back inside the trunk, nearly the whole trunk is empty that way.
Three 15s is really going to hammer.
I mean, I like the bass but don't want to make my highs go much louder so I can do without some of that extra rumble if I have to. If I find some efficient 15s I hope it will perform near the same. Maybe one 18 even or 6-8 10s....not sure yet but likely twin 15s because I'd have more amp room. And the 12s only take maybe 5" off the seat back inside the trunk, nearly the whole trunk is empty that way.
Three 15s is really going to hammer.
I know, thinking about this one too. Just not sure that would be enough, but maybe it would.
True IB, but it really matters little. Once you get much beyond the recommended box size there is little change to the curve and most trunks are big enough...plus they flex and are often vented, etc. So just put a little extra sub in if worried about that. Heck now you can use a parametric/EQ and make it run the way you want anyway and have your whole trunk. Back in the day I used to swap subs and amps until it was tuned better. Aside from cars not having trunks and kids with SPL, I am surprised more people don't run IB now. I'm very happy with it for SQ and it can go loud as far as music, right now it blows my high side away easily and right down to what the subsonic filter is set to. I like 30Hz, but I can fudge it to sound any way I want to with the parametric, it's great. I've never had good luck with big drivers though, so not sure.
True IB, but it really matters little. Once you get much beyond the recommended box size there is little change to the curve and most trunks are big enough...plus they flex and are often vented, etc. So just put a little extra sub in if worried about that. Heck now you can use a parametric/EQ and make it run the way you want anyway and have your whole trunk. Back in the day I used to swap subs and amps until it was tuned better. Aside from cars not having trunks and kids with SPL, I am surprised more people don't run IB now. I'm very happy with it for SQ and it can go loud as far as music, right now it blows my high side away easily and right down to what the subsonic filter is set to. I like 30Hz, but I can fudge it to sound any way I want to with the parametric, it's great. I've never had good luck with big drivers though, so not sure.
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