Hi,
I am doing some test with my prephono gain for my MC cart. The pre phono is using Dale resistor, but the one i plan to use with 36 Kohm for each channel is not a Dale, it is a Kiwame. Do you think the Kiwame in terms of sound quality is equal to the Dale?
Tks in advance for a suggestion.
Best regards
Adelmo
I am doing some test with my prephono gain for my MC cart. The pre phono is using Dale resistor, but the one i plan to use with 36 Kohm for each channel is not a Dale, it is a Kiwame. Do you think the Kiwame in terms of sound quality is equal to the Dale?
Tks in advance for a suggestion.
Best regards
Adelmo
HI,
Yes the Pre Phono uses Dale, but the new gain that I want to try I do not have with Dale resistor, I have only Kiwame so I was wondering which one is better sound wise.
Since to replace the resistor I need to open the pre phono and it is not a so friendly thing I was considering it before doing.
However I am open to consider other brands if they have really a better sound result considering I use only 2 resistor, one per gain channel.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
Yes the Pre Phono uses Dale, but the new gain that I want to try I do not have with Dale resistor, I have only Kiwame so I was wondering which one is better sound wise.
Since to replace the resistor I need to open the pre phono and it is not a so friendly thing I was considering it before doing.
However I am open to consider other brands if they have really a better sound result considering I use only 2 resistor, one per gain channel.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
You can measure the changed gain , but as too Hearing any difference between the mentioned resistors, that is the question.
I would go for precision, low ppm, metal film , but thats just my opinion.
I would go for precision, low ppm, metal film , but thats just my opinion.
Hi,
This pre phono is pretty old and do not have any switches. Need to be opened, remove the resistors and plug in the new ones, but it is not so easy due the position and limited available space. Therefore the question about Dale or Kiwame or ....... others better.
By the way it is an Aria from Audio analogue, first production. Still a reasonable good pre phono.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
This pre phono is pretty old and do not have any switches. Need to be opened, remove the resistors and plug in the new ones, but it is not so easy due the position and limited available space. Therefore the question about Dale or Kiwame or ....... others better.
By the way it is an Aria from Audio analogue, first production. Still a reasonable good pre phono.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
Hi,
If the best resistor is metal film, Kiwame should be worse being not metal though precision should be within 1% and are selected resistors.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
In my book precision is best, drift over time etc. I know for a fact i personally cant hear any difference, or measure it.
Think of a microscope, if you zoom in 500 times differences will show , but are they hearable ? We are talking nano volts.
There are better ways to improve your phono, clean dc , new fresh electrolytics, perhaps better coupling capacitors. Improved grounding.
The list goes on....
Think of a microscope, if you zoom in 500 times differences will show , but are they hearable ? We are talking nano volts.
There are better ways to improve your phono, clean dc , new fresh electrolytics, perhaps better coupling capacitors. Improved grounding.
The list goes on....
HI,
Dale is not really my choice but Kiwame is just intolerable.
Which brand would you suggest considering I change only the 2 resistor for the gain ?
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
Dale is not really my choice but Kiwame is just intolerable.
Which brand would you suggest considering I change only the 2 resistor for the gain ?
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
HI,
Kiwame has good precision but Is not a metal resistor. Dale brown color resistor not easy to find. Regarding other improvements, my pre phono have a decoupled main supply with stable voltage due to separate banks of power capacitor in a double reservoir system. They are never connected to the mains transformer. All in all despite the cart has 0.3V and I do not use any step up, the noise level is pretty low and sound wise also good. Perhaps for metal resistor I should try to find the expensive UK Holco.
Many tsk for your valuable suggestions.
Rgds
Adelmo
My vote for tantalum resistor like Shinkoh or Audionote.
https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/36k-05w-audio-note-tantalum-resistor.html
https://www.acoustic-dimension.com/resistors/Shinkoh-resistors.htm
https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/36k-05w-audio-note-tantalum-resistor.html
https://www.acoustic-dimension.com/resistors/Shinkoh-resistors.htm
Hi DDxStereo,
Due to the difficult fitting of the resistor in my pre phono I wanted to avoid to try many brands and gains since in the past doing so I did damage the resistor holder and needed to disassemble the whole unit and solder again. Just focus on the resistor gain value ( 2 max 3 only )
Was not a matter of cost.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
Due to the difficult fitting of the resistor in my pre phono I wanted to avoid to try many brands and gains since in the past doing so I did damage the resistor holder and needed to disassemble the whole unit and solder again. Just focus on the resistor gain value ( 2 max 3 only )
Was not a matter of cost.
Tks n rgds
Adelmo
Adelmo, you mentioned in your first post 36 Kohm, I assume this sets the gain you desire.
Now consider a few 'flavours'
1/ kiwame - carbon comp
2/ shinkoh or audionote - tantalum
3/ dale or caddock - metal film
you could follow amplitude's suggestion, I tend to use stand off solder posts for both loading and gain resistors for experimentation.
either way, have fun
Now consider a few 'flavours'
1/ kiwame - carbon comp
2/ shinkoh or audionote - tantalum
3/ dale or caddock - metal film
you could follow amplitude's suggestion, I tend to use stand off solder posts for both loading and gain resistors for experimentation.
either way, have fun
This is a resistor in your phono preamp, then you have a further line stage/ preamp gain stage, then a power amp of some kind, followed by speakers or headphones. And you believe that the change of one resistor is going to be noticeable - beyond whatever gain change you're making? I'd be more concerned about the resistor wattage (assume small), tolerance, and size. Check those off, go metal film, and be happy.