Yeah these rippers-off are very clever to come up with a name that puts you on the wrong foot without you being able to sue them!
Jan
Thank g-d no.... originals are mostly Nichicon and sometimes Elna. The 5650 v-fet was allready worked on.... but not very well.
Well, wrongly spelled names are in fact more easy for us. The worst are the ones that copy parts/names exactly.
Last time I ordered at a distributor I got not very recent (2016) electrolytic capacitors. When I complained I was told to mention I want fresh ones next order 🙂 I don't think we can trust any source blindly and have to check what we buy.
Reminds me of a metro ride in berlin when i saw this woman wearing a Luis Wittong handbag.
And i always thought electrolytic capacitors sound the best when they're a tad dry aged, just like a good ham.
And i always thought electrolytic capacitors sound the best when they're a tad dry aged, just like a good ham.
obviously a china parts, those were not originals to the unit..
Rubycon is a Japanese part and with correct spelling...
i do not think Rubycon is dumb enough to make those sleeves, those plastic sleeves are not that hard to make..
Here some values of Keltron which are not regularly produced get made this way....the capacitors are really cheap fake stuff, Keltron commands a good price.
Same for Japanese I suppose.
It is simply a printed heat shrink sleeve, the kind you see on so many packages these days.
Think food packaging, pens even.
Quite easy to make these days, a fairly low resolution rotogravure printing job.
At least this was easy to see.
What would happen if a good looking capacitor was installed and failed, taking with it other parts as well, is best left to the imagination.
Same for Japanese I suppose.
It is simply a printed heat shrink sleeve, the kind you see on so many packages these days.
Think food packaging, pens even.
Quite easy to make these days, a fairly low resolution rotogravure printing job.
At least this was easy to see.
What would happen if a good looking capacitor was installed and failed, taking with it other parts as well, is best left to the imagination.
I shudder thinking making fake sleeves is cheap and easy as Naresh says.
I mean with "proper" brand, logo, code numbers, date, batch, etc., and then some "entrepreneur" can replace cheesy junk cap ones working on a kitchen table, ZERO technology needed, just a hobby knife to slit originals away and a heat gun to apply new ones.
Oh well.
As of "near" Brands, I have seen SQNY, Panashiba, Nikom, Pionner, Cannon (for cameras), and 1000 more.
Oh well.
I mean with "proper" brand, logo, code numbers, date, batch, etc., and then some "entrepreneur" can replace cheesy junk cap ones working on a kitchen table, ZERO technology needed, just a hobby knife to slit originals away and a heat gun to apply new ones.
Oh well.
As of "near" Brands, I have seen SQNY, Panashiba, Nikom, Pionner, Cannon (for cameras), and 1000 more.
Oh well.
Actually, a relative makes sleeves for consumer goods, he has a 9 color and another 11 color machine, and his output is in low millions per day.
He makes them for things like talcum powder, baby food, spices, health supplements and so on.
Once a client had asked for a quote, and while the investment was high (he does photo quality high res work), the per piece cost was about 3 cents for a 50 dia x 63 high jar, and minimum quantity 300k, about a shift's work for him.
They are supplied as rolls or cut (extra charge), and after putting them on, the container goes through a heated tunnel, where hot air shrinks it into place.
If you look at capacitor sleeves, they are a low dpi 1 or 2 color job on a small machine.
10,000 per hour or so is typical.
So not at all difficult to make.
As for space, about 50 square feet, 2kW power.
He makes them for things like talcum powder, baby food, spices, health supplements and so on.
Once a client had asked for a quote, and while the investment was high (he does photo quality high res work), the per piece cost was about 3 cents for a 50 dia x 63 high jar, and minimum quantity 300k, about a shift's work for him.
They are supplied as rolls or cut (extra charge), and after putting them on, the container goes through a heated tunnel, where hot air shrinks it into place.
If you look at capacitor sleeves, they are a low dpi 1 or 2 color job on a small machine.
10,000 per hour or so is typical.
So not at all difficult to make.
As for space, about 50 square feet, 2kW power.
If you have seen printing progress to direct plates from lead type, and also screen making has advanced so much...not at all novel.
This is simply gravure (or even fine flex) printing on colored PVC heat shrink sleeve, and the sleeve cost is the major part, printing cost is negligible.
Think how much cheap cable sleeve costs...the low cost non black heat shrink variety.
Add about 20% to get an idea of the cost.
This is simply gravure (or even fine flex) printing on colored PVC heat shrink sleeve, and the sleeve cost is the major part, printing cost is negligible.
Think how much cheap cable sleeve costs...the low cost non black heat shrink variety.
Add about 20% to get an idea of the cost.
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These are printers (like a PC). Prices can be lower when the run justifies a printing plate on a dumb machine.
These are USA-grade printers. Prices will be lower in less-stale economies. Cost is even lower if you get a job feeding the printer and work your own products when the boss is out. Chip-markers, same thing-- use the company machine.
"use the company machine"
Which makes it even harder to detect, simply get testing rejects from the trash, print, and then sell...
(As the printing and molding will be off the same location)....
Which makes it even harder to detect, simply get testing rejects from the trash, print, and then sell...
(As the printing and molding will be off the same location)....