Hi all. I'm trying to better understand the changes that Marantz has made to their same basic symmetric design that they've used for over 20 years. What has actually improved, and what were just manufacturing decisions based on the parts available and power efficiency?
Note that this not an HDAM discussion which IMO was just their injection of proprietary IP into an amp that I can otherwise build myself.
PM14 - 1998
SM6100/PM8200 - 1999
PM6003 - 2009
PM6005 - 2013
PM6006 (AND PM6007 AFAIK) - 2016-2020
So what exactly have they done that's good?
I ask because I wonder what I can learn to improve my own symmetrical builds. Why do even their latest flagship models not thermally couple each transistor stage?
Many thanks
Note that this not an HDAM discussion which IMO was just their injection of proprietary IP into an amp that I can otherwise build myself.
PM14 - 1998
SM6100/PM8200 - 1999
PM6003 - 2009
PM6005 - 2013
PM6006 (AND PM6007 AFAIK) - 2016-2020
So what exactly have they done that's good?
- Eliminated most diodes from the signal path? Is this to reduce noise or is it to save power from Zener leakage?
- Added DC offset control? Is this for idle power savings as well?
- Added series transistors (Q6007-Q6011) in the input stage? Why?
- Switched from a darlington to a regular high-gain bias transistor?
I ask because I wonder what I can learn to improve my own symmetrical builds. Why do even their latest flagship models not thermally couple each transistor stage?
Many thanks
You assume that all their decisions are made with just one point in mind: the audio quality.
I don't think that is a realistic assumption.
There are probably a myriad reasons for changes to a design, like the need to come with something new, manufacturing optimization, price pressure, parts availability etc etc.
Jan
I don't think that is a realistic assumption.
There are probably a myriad reasons for changes to a design, like the need to come with something new, manufacturing optimization, price pressure, parts availability etc etc.
Jan
I suspect they added the series transistors to lighten the load on the first stage to improve the gain as a way of compensating for the removal of the input amplifier/buffer. The change of the vbe multiplier may just be because of different output transistors and/or possibly the way they are mounted on the heatsink.
Well I just answered one of my questions and landed on the topic of their HDAM modules again... here is the PM-KI Pearl vs. the PM-KI Pearl lite. You can see that the HDAM module replaces a whopping 4 transistors - 2 of which are those downstream series transistors.
PM6006 (AND PM6007 AFAIK) - 2016-2020
pm6007 is quite diferent amp, only two darlington stage not 3. aditional VAS stage.