The PS180 is a cool driver. It’s got kind of ragged peak around the 4-5kHz range as I recall. Listening off axis helps.
Did you line it with felt or eggcrate foam and then put some poly fill or fiberglass stuffing inside? The sound will dramatically improve if that was done. That would be 4 pictures. 🙂
A baffle step compensation circuit (BSC) would probably help too. Probably 1mH 18ga air core and 4.7R to 6.8R 10W resistor in parallel. That would even out the rising response and give more apparent bass. It will drop sensitivity by about 3 to 5dB.
Did you line it with felt or eggcrate foam and then put some poly fill or fiberglass stuffing inside? The sound will dramatically improve if that was done. That would be 4 pictures. 🙂
A baffle step compensation circuit (BSC) would probably help too. Probably 1mH 18ga air core and 4.7R to 6.8R 10W resistor in parallel. That would even out the rising response and give more apparent bass. It will drop sensitivity by about 3 to 5dB.
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> Did you line it with felt or eggcrate foam and then
> put some poly fill or fiberglass stuffing inside?
Simply stuffed it with ~ 1/2 # acoustastuff .
The happiest thing was how well the driver fit !
Seemed some whizzer tizz at first ... but smoothing
out ....
> put some poly fill or fiberglass stuffing inside?
Simply stuffed it with ~ 1/2 # acoustastuff .
The happiest thing was how well the driver fit !
Seemed some whizzer tizz at first ... but smoothing
out ....
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- hey Mike - it looks "purpose made"🙂 Dayton's graph scales drive me nuts. You might consider BSC . It looks right for Karlson applications as far as rising response goes.
re: tinnitus - sometimes it seems an overload of sucralose triggers mine into sounding like a weed whacker in the right ear 😱
re: tinnitus - sometimes it seems an overload of sucralose triggers mine into sounding like a weed whacker in the right ear 😱
> it looks "purpose made"
Yes ! ..... Though it sometimes takes awhile to
find and align .....
I almost thought I had it with one of your Miscos :
6.5" (165 mm) 8 Ohm, Single Driver Loudspeaker
A little big though ....
AND .... This time the Dayton specs were accurate ...
Unlike a lot of their drivers .
Yes ! ..... Though it sometimes takes awhile to
find and align .....
I almost thought I had it with one of your Miscos :
6.5" (165 mm) 8 Ohm, Single Driver Loudspeaker
A little big though ....
AND .... This time the Dayton specs were accurate ...
Unlike a lot of their drivers .
although pricey (especially considering shipping quotes I've seen at MISCO) that 6.5 FR looks like it would make a decent XKi type.
Did you have that Misco ? - if so - what did it do well ?
Did you have that Misco ? - if so - what did it do well ?
My experience is Dayton drivers consistently measure what the factory spec says. Not inflated like some other brands that seem to claim a more powerful magnet (lower Qts) than measured.
Well, my experience is that Dayton is great quality for their price, even with the rise of some. They are not the best in general, but never really bad and among the best in price/quality and their published specs are very close to reality. And especially the subwoofers are great performers.
I don't know this driver, but i also see the ragged top end which i don't like. I would put a filter to lower the top from 1200Hz with 5dB altough to make it sound more balanced. And for that price probally use an other driver (Mark Audio CHN110). But if you like it...
I don't know this driver, but i also see the ragged top end which i don't like. I would put a filter to lower the top from 1200Hz with 5dB altough to make it sound more balanced. And for that price probally use an other driver (Mark Audio CHN110). But if you like it...
Dayton Audio - PS180-8 6-1/2" Point Source Full-Range Neo Driver
I'd like a bit of eq.
I feel they threw this one up on us, no attempt at design, no improvements, just a horrible attempt at a full range driver...…………………
I'm not put off by Dayton line woofers, but this is an insult.
I'd like a bit of eq.
I feel they threw this one up on us, no attempt at design, no improvements, just a horrible attempt at a full range driver...…………………
I'm not put off by Dayton line woofers, but this is an insult.
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> Looks to be a PA high speech intelligibility ceiling driver in concept.
Hmmmmm : )
Maybe that is why I like the sound .
My ears are pretty shot @ H.F. and
maybe that quality gives me some
( music also ) definition that I miss
in tamer ( term ? ) drivers ? Sort of
like a built in hearing aid .....
@ Freddi ....
I went ahead and put the Miscos in
identical boxes ....
( Usual screw ups simply enlarging holes ) : (
They seem better ( acousta stuff vs fibre glass ? ) :
clearer , but still no banana ( nor cigar )
......Dayton........................Misco..........
Hmmmmm : )
Maybe that is why I like the sound .
My ears are pretty shot @ H.F. and
maybe that quality gives me some
( music also ) definition that I miss
in tamer ( term ? ) drivers ? Sort of
like a built in hearing aid .....
@ Freddi ....
I went ahead and put the Miscos in
identical boxes ....
( Usual screw ups simply enlarging holes ) : (
They seem better ( acousta stuff vs fibre glass ? ) :
clearer , but still no banana ( nor cigar )
......Dayton........................Misco..........
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wow Hitsware - you rolled and won the high fs high Qts lottery with the MISCO (lotsa winners from lotsa manufacturers !)
That MISCO needs more magnet - more weight (maybe a lot of "break-in" to lower fs and Q)
at 71 and damage from a half century before that, my hearing poops out by 12KHz. I've noticed that large ingestion of Sucralose really sets off the tinnitus from "crickets and chirping birds" to weed whacker in the right ear.
Hey Mike - you "could" Karlsonize it with kardboard and duct tape
That MISCO needs more magnet - more weight (maybe a lot of "break-in" to lower fs and Q)
at 71 and damage from a half century before that, my hearing poops out by 12KHz. I've noticed that large ingestion of Sucralose really sets off the tinnitus from "crickets and chirping birds" to weed whacker in the right ear.
Hey Mike - you "could" Karlsonize it with kardboard and duct tape
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> the high fs high Qts lottery with the MISCO
I didn ' t think so ....
( Those DATS readings are in box )
But then I ' m used to cheap ceiling drivers .
They came close to given specs and
predicted results .
I didn ' t think so ....
( Those DATS readings are in box )
But then I ' m used to cheap ceiling drivers .
They came close to given specs and
predicted results .
No doubt........right, the ~ 5, 10 kHz spikes span the 'sibilance', 'definition' BWs with the 15+ kHz spike for top end 'air': Interactive Frequency Chart - Independent Recording Network
FWIW, mine's gone enough that TV dialog scenes with much background noise and/or music soundtrack, I have to cup my ears with opened fingers to block the LF enough for the dialog to 'pop' into high clarity.
I had a pair of those from ebay, dumped back to the same. Then I laid out nearly ~$400 for the Li F15s. I'm listening to a pair of Pluvia 7 HDs (on the top) right now in the bedroom. All on OB; I've kicked the boxes to the curb. I mean garage...
You'll go through some drivers and ways to "baffle" them as you go through time with this hobby. Also everything north of the speaker terminals.
You'll go through some drivers and ways to "baffle" them as you go through time with this hobby. Also everything north of the speaker terminals.
