Hey all, I just wanted to post some mostly-final images, and some final thoughts of build I did about 8 months ago...
Dave at Planet-10 actually lives quite near to me, so on occasion, when I have free time and money to burn, I ring him up. I have seen/read of many people trying to find good plans and ideas for full range builds that incorporate a helper woofer or two. I stumbled around doing several builds trying to find something I was happy with in the full range world. Lots of really fun stuff out there, but never quite the whole package in my books... and well, I'm cheap(ish) so I try to get the best bang for my buck.
Well, I came across Dave's ML-TL build using the Mark Audio Alpair 7m and 2 Alpair 12pw's doing bass duty. I, unlike many of you, had the opportunity to audition them in real life. I was sold then, listening to them in Dave's livingroom, and I am still sold many months later - something rare for me to say.
Anywho. I feel like there's very little info available on these out there and they deserve more. The A7m are insanely revealing and smooth drivers... they are easily my favorite for anythingother than heavy bass duty. Now the A12pw - HOLY they go low with finesse. I had my suspicions, but make no mistake, a pair of these in room go to mid 20hz flat easy peasy in this ML-TL. The low end is so smooth it's haunting... it's not going to blast rap at 120db, but for realistic volumes it's stunning. A very well matched set, and a VERY well designed build that was decently straight-forward to execute. I deviated from the plan from an easthetic perspective... I had the strongest urge for bamboo, something I don't regret aside from being a bastard in the woodshop; never have I had so many slivers and chip outs! Only real mistake that I couldn't cover up was misalignment of my circle jig so the holes have a 1/16" gap all around. Working on hiding that, then I can call them completely done!
Thanks for reading
Dave at Planet-10 actually lives quite near to me, so on occasion, when I have free time and money to burn, I ring him up. I have seen/read of many people trying to find good plans and ideas for full range builds that incorporate a helper woofer or two. I stumbled around doing several builds trying to find something I was happy with in the full range world. Lots of really fun stuff out there, but never quite the whole package in my books... and well, I'm cheap(ish) so I try to get the best bang for my buck.
Well, I came across Dave's ML-TL build using the Mark Audio Alpair 7m and 2 Alpair 12pw's doing bass duty. I, unlike many of you, had the opportunity to audition them in real life. I was sold then, listening to them in Dave's livingroom, and I am still sold many months later - something rare for me to say.
Anywho. I feel like there's very little info available on these out there and they deserve more. The A7m are insanely revealing and smooth drivers... they are easily my favorite for anythingother than heavy bass duty. Now the A12pw - HOLY they go low with finesse. I had my suspicions, but make no mistake, a pair of these in room go to mid 20hz flat easy peasy in this ML-TL. The low end is so smooth it's haunting... it's not going to blast rap at 120db, but for realistic volumes it's stunning. A very well matched set, and a VERY well designed build that was decently straight-forward to execute. I deviated from the plan from an easthetic perspective... I had the strongest urge for bamboo, something I don't regret aside from being a bastard in the woodshop; never have I had so many slivers and chip outs! Only real mistake that I couldn't cover up was misalignment of my circle jig so the holes have a 1/16" gap all around. Working on hiding that, then I can call them completely done!
Thanks for reading
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Danyo,
Congratulations on the build - the speakers look very nice.
These are with the passive cross over?
Congratulations on the build - the speakers look very nice.
These are with the passive cross over?
Thanks guys, they are my favorite thing in my living room, maybe even the whole house.
Zman, I forgot to touch on that. I actually had enough stuff kicking around to digitally xo and biamp. I really wanted to build the passive xo but my room usually needs a lot of correction anyway. I used the passive xo as a starting point and tweaked after some in room measuring.
Zman, I forgot to touch on that. I actually had enough stuff kicking around to digitally xo and biamp. I really wanted to build the passive xo but my room usually needs a lot of correction anyway. I used the passive xo as a starting point and tweaked after some in room measuring.
Thanks Danyo. Enjoy! 🙂
I also got a pair of FAST speakers up and running yesterday (different design).
I also got a pair of FAST speakers up and running yesterday (different design).
Cool, you're welcome to post thoughts / photos! I just wanted to give some credit where it was due, but I welcome everybody to do the same.
Danyo,
Thanks much for inviting me to post on your build thread. But as my build uses different drivers and is a different design altogether (RS225 + 10F/8424 FAST by member xrk971), I shall refrain from posting details of that project here.
Let this thread cover your beautiful build of the Planet10 design (am I correct in guessing that the cabinet design/tuning has been done by Scottmoose?). 🙂
Thanks much for inviting me to post on your build thread. But as my build uses different drivers and is a different design altogether (RS225 + 10F/8424 FAST by member xrk971), I shall refrain from posting details of that project here.
Let this thread cover your beautiful build of the Planet10 design (am I correct in guessing that the cabinet design/tuning has been done by Scottmoose?). 🙂
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Dave, I actually have both the a7m and the a7PeN; the former being pictured. Both are great, but that a7m just has that "x-factor" if you know what I mean. When I find more money, maybe I'll get the a7m enabled as well... would be an interesting comparison.
Zman, fair enough. As far as credit due, I'll have to let Dave pipe in for the percentage of who did what, but If my memory serves me, it was a collaborative effort.
Zman, fair enough. As far as credit due, I'll have to let Dave pipe in for the percentage of who did what, but If my memory serves me, it was a collaborative effort.
Beautiful build, love the layering on the baffle.
I've given up on getting "air-tight" fit of the recessed circular cut-out on drivers. I find it's too likely to create problems during driver installation, especially if paint or clear-coats are involved and a driver needs to be removed later. A small, uniform gap looks totally acceptable IMO.
Blacking out that inner ring will prevent it from being eye catching.
I've given up on getting "air-tight" fit of the recessed circular cut-out on drivers. I find it's too likely to create problems during driver installation, especially if paint or clear-coats are involved and a driver needs to be removed later. A small, uniform gap looks totally acceptable IMO.
Blacking out that inner ring will prevent it from being eye catching.
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Thanks FRFT and Wiggle.
Good call on blacking out the cut-outs... I hate seeing the lighter bamboo rings!
Good call on blacking out the cut-outs... I hate seeing the lighter bamboo rings!
Dan, you were far more patient than I could have been to accomplish that very tasteful work with the bamboo. Out of curiosity, what are you using for amplification?
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Can anyone please point me towards the plans for these, and maybe others like these ?
I may be blind as well as stupid, but have had a look on the Planet 10 site and can't find anything.
They look like the sort of speaker I really want to build at some stage, though I can't imagine me doing such a beautiful job as you've done Danyo.
I may be blind as well as stupid, but have had a look on the Planet 10 site and can't find anything.
They look like the sort of speaker I really want to build at some stage, though I can't imagine me doing such a beautiful job as you've done Danyo.
Chrisb, thanks... I just about lost my patience... that stuff turned out to be much more work than using birch ply, which I'm quite familiar with. As for amplification, I'm currently playing around with a couple Sumo power amps, mini dsp for crossover, room correction, etc, and a marantz DAC. I have have played around with several amps, but I'm quite happy with the Sumo's performance.
Simplesteve, message Dave at Planet10 directly. He has the best info on these as he's a major part in their development. And... thanks 🙂
Simplesteve, message Dave at Planet10 directly. He has the best info on these as he's a major part in their development. And... thanks 🙂
I have the Mini DSP 2x4 HD. I had fairly low expectations of it after having the original non-hd model I used for computer speakers, but this one's pretty solid for the cost.