This thread is being started as an OT discussion from the Tabaq thread. The design is a compact flat wall mountable stereo speaker that has great midrange clarity and pretty decent bass extension due to the mass loaded transmission line (MLTL) approach that was added to the original design based on this thread. The original open-ended TL design looked like this:
I modified the dimensions of that design to fit two speakers on a single panel of 20in x 30in foam core board. The revised design plan is as follows (added 1.0in x 2.2in x 2.44in long vents):
Here are some photos of what it looks like:
Close up of the constrictor vent:
If you want, you can decorate with a picture frame (the craft stores have a ready-made 20in x 30in frames in stock) and a poster or picture to look like this (this one has a built in class D amp and BlueTooth connectivity in addition to 3.5mm stereo jack):
Several people have built this with good success. Some have split it off to be a single (non-stereo) speaker.
Here is a sound clip:
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Here are measurements of the vent bass output:
Here are more recent measurements from a meter away with speaker mounted on wall at 53in driver height from floor. The wall and room combine to extend the bass to a very deep 30Hz, albeit lower amplitude (but still very present). The drop off below 100Hz is due partly to room modes and also just fall off with distance:
The impulse and step response are quite nice:

I modified the dimensions of that design to fit two speakers on a single panel of 20in x 30in foam core board. The revised design plan is as follows (added 1.0in x 2.2in x 2.44in long vents):

Here are some photos of what it looks like:

Close up of the constrictor vent:

If you want, you can decorate with a picture frame (the craft stores have a ready-made 20in x 30in frames in stock) and a poster or picture to look like this (this one has a built in class D amp and BlueTooth connectivity in addition to 3.5mm stereo jack):

Several people have built this with good success. Some have split it off to be a single (non-stereo) speaker.
Here is a sound clip:
diyAudio
Here are measurements of the vent bass output:

Here are more recent measurements from a meter away with speaker mounted on wall at 53in driver height from floor. The wall and room combine to extend the bass to a very deep 30Hz, albeit lower amplitude (but still very present). The drop off below 100Hz is due partly to room modes and also just fall off with distance:

The impulse and step response are quite nice:

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Hey X
i also build the Vifantastisch 😉 and like the sound of the original build.
But your measurements
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...rd-speaker-enclosures-flat-mltl-freq-resp.png
look intriguing, what are the exact dimensions of your constrictor vent?
I want to try it out 😀
Cheers
i also build the Vifantastisch 😉 and like the sound of the original build.
But your measurements
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...rd-speaker-enclosures-flat-mltl-freq-resp.png
look intriguing, what are the exact dimensions of your constrictor vent?
I want to try it out 😀
Cheers
Hey X
i also build the Vifantastisch 😉 and like the sound of the original build.
But your measurements
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...rd-speaker-enclosures-flat-mltl-freq-resp.png
look intriguing, what are the exact dimensions of your constrictor vent?
I want to try it out 😀
Cheers
Hi Sayrum,
It was you who turned me into this speaker and the TC9FD. The constrictor is in the drawing - probably not clear but 1.0in x 2.2in x 2.44in long. Note that my main box size is different to fit sheet of foam core.

That was one of my first speakers that I built. It sounds much better with a modification that turns it into a MLTL. The bass is much deeper and the overall sound is smoother. The open ended TL has very little bass and lots of harmonics leaking out.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full...board-speaker-enclosures-147.html#post3400954
do you mean this one ???
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/231951-accidental-mltl-technique-16.html#post3466655
can you give detail box dimensions ?
Hey xrk971

and to introducing here in the full range forum more measuring + judging by ones own listening experiences and less just "believing" hypes about certain drivers + what they are supposedly capable of...
So the vent is 1" + 2.2" and extends 2.4" into the line?
Sorry for the OT!
I know. Am glad you took it as an incentive and went to develope your own speakersHi Sayrum,
It was you who turned me into this speaker and the TC9FD.

and to introducing here in the full range forum more measuring + judging by ones own listening experiences and less just "believing" hypes about certain drivers + what they are supposedly capable of...
So the vent is 1" + 2.2" and extends 2.4" into the line?
Sorry for the OT!
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@Sayrum:
@smksoba: see plan in above post #1141. The one you referenced is different - its thicker and more compact and I did not like the sound as much.
Yes.So the vent is 1" + 2.2" and extends 2.4" into the line?
@smksoba: see plan in above post #1141. The one you referenced is different - its thicker and more compact and I did not like the sound as much.
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@Sayrum:
Yes.
@smksoba: see plan in above post #1141. The one you referenced is different - its thicker and more compact and I did not like the sound as much.
thanks
how much distance from center speaker to left box or right box (red line at attachment ) ?
speaker box can be split into two speaker boxes ???
thanks
how much distance from center speaker to left box or right box (red line at attachment ) ?
speaker box can be split into two speaker boxes ???
About 20 in C-T-C. Yes, you can split into 2 boxes.
Guys, maybe you should tag along a more relevant thread, or start a new one, as this is for the TABAQs.
Anybody looking for plans about the Vifantastisch will probably not think of looking in the TABAQs thread.
Anybody looking for plans about the Vifantastisch will probably not think of looking in the TABAQs thread.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4361230anyone try vifa tc9fd 18-08 with tabaq box ? Which one is better vifantastish or tabaq box ?
This post references the vifa.
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Guys, maybe you should tag along a more relevant thread, or start a new one, as this is for the TABAQs.
Anybody looking for plans about the Vifantastisch will probably not think of looking in the TABAQs thread.
I agree, maybe a mod can create a new thread and pull these last few posts off and over?
@xrk971
your speaker box dimensions for inside box or ouside box ??
I have create box plan for 12mm MDF , it's correct or wrong ?
Looks great. You will need to put stuffing from closed end to just past driver. You will also need a bunch of little braces to keep the panels from vibrating. There are photos of it in both my foam core thread and the Vifafantaskic thread.
Flat Wall Mount Stereo MLTL using TC9FD's
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Hello guys,
I was wondering, how would this Vifantastisch compare to the Cornu spriral horn?
Anybody have experience with both of them? xrk?
I was wondering, how would this Vifantastisch compare to the Cornu spriral horn?
Anybody have experience with both of them? xrk?
Thanks, X!
Guess now I gotta figure out how to incorporate the K-aperture into the Cornu.
(then will it become... Kornu? Way kool!😀)
Guess now I gotta figure out how to incorporate the K-aperture into the Cornu.
(then will it become... Kornu? Way kool!😀)
This might be a design that's in between the Cornu and the Vifantantisch.
At 12cm deep, it could easily be mounted on a wall.
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At 12cm deep, it could easily be mounted on a wall.
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