Sorry for the rough sketch.
Personally i would do something like i scribbled on your drawing, if it is not too much of a headache.
Divide the Bass enclosure into 2 parts, then you double the frequency of the internal standing wave so it is easier absorb/ damp out.
A irregular shaped enclosure volume is usually a good thing for midranges, and give a little more volume for the bass drivers.
A little 'cup' behind the tweeter to isolate it from the rest.
Downside is a little less thermal power handling, as there is less air volume to cool it.
As for the rest, it looks like those baffles are in need of a inside chamfer for the driver mounting holes. Might be the pics fooling me.
The amount of 'mids' seems high compared to bass drivers in terms of membrane area, but i don't know the design and drivers well enough.
Be sure you have enough capability on the bottom end,🙂
It is taking shape quite nicely.
Personally i would do something like i scribbled on your drawing, if it is not too much of a headache.
Divide the Bass enclosure into 2 parts, then you double the frequency of the internal standing wave so it is easier absorb/ damp out.
A irregular shaped enclosure volume is usually a good thing for midranges, and give a little more volume for the bass drivers.
A little 'cup' behind the tweeter to isolate it from the rest.
Downside is a little less thermal power handling, as there is less air volume to cool it.
As for the rest, it looks like those baffles are in need of a inside chamfer for the driver mounting holes. Might be the pics fooling me.
The amount of 'mids' seems high compared to bass drivers in terms of membrane area, but i don't know the design and drivers well enough.
Be sure you have enough capability on the bottom end,🙂
It is taking shape quite nicely.
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Thanks Arez 👍Divide the Bass enclosure into 2 parts, then you double the frequency of the internal standing wave so it is easier absorb/ damp out.
I was thinking of splitting the woofers into 2 & 2, & I also have to have the crossover somewhere so I'll probably make a double wall, with a removable door so you can access it.
The amount of 'mids' seems high compared to bass drivers in terms of membrane area, but i don't know the design and drivers well enough.
Be sure you have enough capability on the bottom end
It will only play from 80 hz, but i also thought on "how to" use the 8 pieses of peerless_fsl_0512r01_08 "the best way"
And in pair´s it´s easy to get an even impedance ( 2x2 to 16 ohm and 8 ohm at the xover)
If i use 5 of them as woofers and 3 for midrange, they will have different impedance and with that different output.
And maby you can "take advantage" of that point-source-wise, but for sure it give you many workinghour´s 😉
About chamfer for the driver mounting holes, it will be done if needed.
From the beginning i was thinking about mounting them from behind, and make "waveguides" in the MDF for all of them, but It will be extremely difficult if a driver needs to be replaced in that case.
And i don´t want to make an dismountable backside for the hole speaker ( it´s 3 pieses at backside)
Everything is a compromise
One thing at a time.
Do you really think I need to chamfer for the driver, when it look´s like this?
Basket-angle is "good" on the peerless_fsl_0512r01_08, and linjear xmax of +-3,9 mm.
Do you really think I need to chamfer for the driver, when it look´s like this?
Basket-angle is "good" on the peerless_fsl_0512r01_08, and linjear xmax of +-3,9 mm.
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Yes the chamfers will be beneficial even at that thickness, especially for the 'mids'.
It avoids internal diffraction from that 90 degree edge.
It creates a cavity resonance, that is more or less visible both in the FR and CSD plots.
That and the non paralell walls is what i'd do to the mid enclosure for improvements if desired.
Necessary it is not though.
A simple example with a 3mm thicker baffle then yours:
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/chamfer.htm
Also Jim Moriyasus writeup, a study of midrange enclosures (speak builder magazine 2000 NR7/8).
It avoids internal diffraction from that 90 degree edge.
It creates a cavity resonance, that is more or less visible both in the FR and CSD plots.
That and the non paralell walls is what i'd do to the mid enclosure for improvements if desired.
Necessary it is not though.
A simple example with a 3mm thicker baffle then yours:
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/chamfer.htm
Also Jim Moriyasus writeup, a study of midrange enclosures (speak builder magazine 2000 NR7/8).
A little 'cup' behind the tweeter to isolate it from the rest.
Is that needed with Audax TW025A28 do you think?
It will be hard to find "cup", that work with 125 x 175 waveguide-hole.
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So projects continue and now i have sanded all surfaces & rounded the edges on one of the cabinetts.
In my mind before i started, i see a slim "invisible" tv-speaker in front of me, but the "real thing" is another storry.
It´s heavy and relatively large with it´s 155 high x 23 wide x 23 deep in cm.
Have glued nr 2 this evening, but have the backside and xover-space left to do.
And i becomes much work when you dont have semiproffesional worktools, and also work at the kitchen table.
In my mind before i started, i see a slim "invisible" tv-speaker in front of me, but the "real thing" is another storry.
It´s heavy and relatively large with it´s 155 high x 23 wide x 23 deep in cm.
Have glued nr 2 this evening, but have the backside and xover-space left to do.
And i becomes much work when you dont have semiproffesional worktools, and also work at the kitchen table.
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Have now sanded, filled & primed the speakers.
A hell of a job, but hopefully it's over & the final paint is easier to work with.
Only have satin matte black at home, so thats what it get for finish lacquer.
A hell of a job, but hopefully it's over & the final paint is easier to work with.
Only have satin matte black at home, so thats what it get for finish lacquer.
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First layer of topfinish paint is done.....Haaaalelujia
So impossible to paint without the brush strokes showing.......Grrrr
If I could pay for a professional paint job, I would choose it "every day of the week"
So impossible to paint without the brush strokes showing.......Grrrr
If I could pay for a professional paint job, I would choose it "every day of the week"
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Some progress 🙂
Xover and measurement on the first assembled speaker, is soon begain!
Painting is a "pain in the a--", but must looking "forward" and fix it somehow afterwards.
Xover and measurement on the first assembled speaker, is soon begain!
Painting is a "pain in the a--", but must looking "forward" and fix it somehow afterwards.
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Here what simulation in Vituaxcad looks like with measurements.
First listening with that xover 1 hour now, and it all seems promising, even if first 3-4 songs sounded like a can with new drivers.
Damn tonal presence and ridiculously output hahaha.
cheers
First listening with that xover 1 hour now, and it all seems promising, even if first 3-4 songs sounded like a can with new drivers.
Damn tonal presence and ridiculously output hahaha.
cheers

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Pics for them ho wish to se more of consept.
Hard to get better for the cost or 10 times more!
Angle in the cabinette is 2,5 then 5 grades, so drivers pointing to listener.
And place for the xover at the back.
Hard to get better for the cost or 10 times more!
Angle in the cabinette is 2,5 then 5 grades, so drivers pointing to listener.
And place for the xover at the back.
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Measurements shows +-2 dB from 170 hz to 12.000 hz in cabinette without xover!
Don´t know, but that have to be a hard-to-beat results.
Cheep 5,9 inch Peerlees fls-0512r1-8 ohm is definitely worth working on further!
Don´t know, but that have to be a hard-to-beat results.
Cheep 5,9 inch Peerlees fls-0512r1-8 ohm is definitely worth working on further!
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Hahahaha, of course!Pretty sure theres room for 8 more woofers on the 😝 back
And 8 more on the right side, facing sideway 😂😂😂
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