My Grandma had those! She also had the three way version with space for meat, taters, and green beans.Im sure that grandma took those drivers back in glass display in her living room, so they are in good use
Exactly my thought.A 4’ driver should have no need for a whizzer.
I cut the whizzer cone from my visaton FR10-8.
The paper is quite fibrous, so I added some PVA glue, let it dry and made another clean cut:

And here are the responses, before and after cutting;


the whizzer cone version is slightly worse on axis above 10 kHz, but it makes the 60° off-axis response slightly smoother.
Add back phase-plug.... Much off-axis splash/interference come from cone direct as well as bounce -- what I learned playing with LS50 Meta.
I compared three models of 4".
Two of them have withers, but I don't feel any disadvantages.
0:00 AIYIMA A1D1307
2:00 MarkAudio CHN719
4:00 Visaton FR10
Two of them have withers, but I don't feel any disadvantages.
0:00 AIYIMA A1D1307
2:00 MarkAudio CHN719
4:00 Visaton FR10
The paper is quite fibrous, so I added some PVA glue,
Puzzlkoat/Modpodge is a PVA specifically for Decoupage, and dries a bit more flexible than typical wood glue. But wood glue will work.
A then thinned coat on the paper cone will improve it’d DDR.
the whizzer cone version is slightly worse on axis above 10 kHz, but it makes the 60° off-axis response slightly smoother.
But how did the sound change?
dave
@stv
30 degree curve above 10khz less output
60 degree curve lower highs less output
on axis more output but less linear
Nice to see it measured but I won't cut the whizzer off.
Its already only a small whizzer.
I do aluminium foil tweak, also recommendable.
One time puzzlecoat or Lts50 will do a bit, too.
The whizzer alone can be made stiffer with hair spray liquor.
I won't treat the cone with hair liquor, it becomes stiffer but breaks up more in resonances. Already tried that.
But it works if treated mit alu foil then
30 degree curve above 10khz less output
60 degree curve lower highs less output
on axis more output but less linear
Nice to see it measured but I won't cut the whizzer off.
Its already only a small whizzer.
I do aluminium foil tweak, also recommendable.
One time puzzlecoat or Lts50 will do a bit, too.
The whizzer alone can be made stiffer with hair spray liquor.
I won't treat the cone with hair liquor, it becomes stiffer but breaks up more in resonances. Already tried that.
But it works if treated mit alu foil then
puzzlecoat or Lts50
As best i can tell, the same. Coating with this is smiliar in. concept to Freedom’s Al foil.
dave
Visaton B80 and B100 measure well.
I would use them with my aluminium foil tweak.
If no tweaks included I prefer polypropylene or glass fiber cones.
this one is a JVC 8cm driver, I got 50 pairs of them with plastic enclosure for 2.5 euro each.
I would use them with my aluminium foil tweak.
If no tweaks included I prefer polypropylene or glass fiber cones.
this one is a JVC 8cm driver, I got 50 pairs of them with plastic enclosure for 2.5 euro each.
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