What does higher emitter voltage mean? Bias tests points

Can you guesstimate the degC/W figure for the heatsink by looking others in the catalogue and maybe get an idea of its mass and therefore heat capacity?
Then you could say how fast it should heat up if everything is as it should be.

Those thermal switches are good for shutting things off, but I use some cheap temp controllers from ebay, a thermistor sensor, an LED temp readout and a programmable limit for a relay to switch.

Some amps seem to have heatsinks which are for music, not continuous sinewave testing. I have in front of me a little Creek 4040 which seems to make a good volume of music with a small heatsink.
 
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So the emitter resistors are specified as .5 ohm. What is the DC no signal bias voltage set to? Have not seen the value you set in your posts.

Knowing the bias value will let us calculate the transistor power dissipation assuming +- 30 volt supplies.

Are both channels on the same heat sink?

Does it get hot quiescently or do you need to be delivering power to a load?
 
Both channels are mounted to the same heatsink so a little hard to tell, but the output pair that has lower voltage appears to be hotter.

I have set the bias to 20mV.

It only gets hot with load and signal. Seems to MAYBE get into thermal runaway at about 5-7V RMS on the outputs
 
Anyone care to comment on this section of the service manual? I'm trying to understand it and see if it warrants looking into for faults. I've got the TIP41 - 42 pairs in and am going to the tests again.
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Both channels are mounted to the same heatsink so a little hard to tell, but the output pair that has lower voltage appears to be hotter.

I have set the bias to 20mV.

It only gets hot with load and signal. Seems to MAYBE get into thermal runaway at about 5-7V RMS on the outputs
Maybe I missed it, but seems you don´t mention what´s the DC-offset on the output terminals??
If you maybe have larger offset on one channel, that could be the reason for "one channel hotter"??
Which means, the bias will increase as soon as you connect a load, speakers or dummy.
 
Does it work to measure the voltage drop over the emitter resistors and then calculate that against the RMS value on the dummy load. Those two numbers would give me the efficiency of the amp? And then I would know if it is wasting heat more than it should be for AB?
 
I'm not setting the bias, that is already done. It's just the same test points for reference.

I'm working on a Pioneer stereo / amp that had blown outputs. I've replaced them and have it running, but suspect it may be running too hot. One thing that I discovered was the voltage across the Left channels emitter resistor, which is also the test point for setting the bias, is about 20% higher than the Right side. Meaning: If I send it a 1v p-p sinewave and turn the volume up "half way" I will get 450mV across the right channel test point and 650mV across the left. What does that mean?

Also This emitter voltage discrepancy is with the same RMS value on dummy loads, meaning the output appears to be the same on both channels, but one has this higher voltage.

I'm not setting the bias, that is already done. It's just the same test points for reference.
Your bias may be "set", but is it right? The bias is tricky with the SX-550 and it's important to note that the bias trimmer pots are reversed. Counter Clockwise is maximum and being an emitter follower output they idle pretty warm. I have a 100 Ohm shunt across the bias pots and that tames the maximum bias to about 80 mV which is much higher than needed for proper adjustment and prevents the ridiculous quiescent dissipation the stock circuit allows. The bias is best set with a distortion analyzer and it's quite clear where it belongs judging from the residual. It's also notable that Cdom(miller capacitor) is barely large enough at 22P and needs to be increased if the output transistors are replaced. with anything modern. Mine uses 150P with it's D44/45H11 outputs and MPSA06/56 drivers. It sounds great, runs cool and the distortion at full power is about 0.008% which is a LONG way form the 0.3% the specs suggest.
 
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