So what would your prefer? The richest person in the region being the defacto magistrate. Or maybe trial by ordeal? Or perhaps the good old fashioned mob with pitchforks and torches stringing people from the nearest tree?
Same for some cancer. Why? It can be a quirk of statistics. In rural areas there aren't always enough data points for statistical noise to be averaged out. Therefore some rural areas will show unusually high rates, and some will show unusually low rates. In urban areas one is more likely to see average rates.
Its always a mistake to believe that the purpose of law is provide true justice. That's not what its for. Its really intended as way to settle disputes without people killing each other over disagreements. For example, being accused of a crime you didn't commit does not entitle you to true justice. It entitles you to participate process to settle the matter once and for all. If you are convicted of a crime you didn't commit, you can only appeal on grounds that the process was not followed correctly. Except in very rare cases, you can't appeal on the grounds that it came to the physically wrong conclusion.
As members of society we are encouraged to believe in the fiction that the law is truly just. That's just to keep us from going back to the other old system where we kill each other to settle disputes.
It appears we are reverting back to the old system, especially in large urban areas with gang problems, people have to watch out for cons and bent cops.
Nature has ways of balancing things, too many sharks....they have to eat eachother.
Nature has ways of balancing things, too many sharks....they have to eat eachother.
Sadly, you're cops often kill anyone involved before it gets to justice.....
At least we had a start wiith the Magna Carta.
Ignoring the epic grammar failure, googling some statistics suggests that there are up to 1000 shootings by police in the USA a year against over 7 million arrests. So that is under 0.02%. Not what I would call 'often' unless you believe Dirty Harry films are a documentary.
You can't see the rising level of violence in our young? .... I don't know, think back to your youth. How often did you hear about youths armed with machetes hacking eachother to death. I think things are getting worse and so do most I speak to but I suppose there are still plenty of places where nothing much ever happens.
OK Bill.
Please give up trying to score points with your pedantic insults.
Are you defending the US police system/force for the sake of trying to be clever?
The following are probably the tip of the iceburg as to the general culture, sadly.
Shoplifting:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66690408
A few more from the BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cr07gpl05emt
Please don't insult my intelligence. I'm sure you're very intelligent.
IMO >
We have Law, and we need Law. It is a 'just' (and I mean just) method of solving problems.
However, a real concern is not how rich the magistrate is, but, who can afford the best defense.
What, Dirty Harry films AREN'T a documentary? Next you'll be saying the carry on films aren't historically correct.
Doesn't every system/organisation become corrupted in time? Once it set in, it's difficult to get ride of, and this applies to the legal system. Started with good intentions (hopefully), but lawyers can make a lot of money, which gives them an incentive to draw things out, and make them as complicated as possible - a bit like the architect planing a project where I work.
Could people becoming more "mental" in built up areas by a bit like the rat Utopia experiment? We're going beyond the ideal social group size.
I saw a documentary about some guy looking into the brains of psychopaths, and he found that they had slightly different brains, so he scanned his own brain, and to his shock, found that his brain was the same, and to make matters worse, when he told his family they said it made sense; but he obviously wasn't a bad person, so he wanted to know why, and the only difference was the childhood of the psychopaths he had studied had had terrible childhoods, whilst his was perfect.
Doesn't every system/organisation become corrupted in time? Once it set in, it's difficult to get ride of, and this applies to the legal system. Started with good intentions (hopefully), but lawyers can make a lot of money, which gives them an incentive to draw things out, and make them as complicated as possible - a bit like the architect planing a project where I work.
Could people becoming more "mental" in built up areas by a bit like the rat Utopia experiment? We're going beyond the ideal social group size.
I saw a documentary about some guy looking into the brains of psychopaths, and he found that they had slightly different brains, so he scanned his own brain, and to his shock, found that his brain was the same, and to make matters worse, when he told his family they said it made sense; but he obviously wasn't a bad person, so he wanted to know why, and the only difference was the childhood of the psychopaths he had studied had had terrible childhoods, whilst his was perfect.
So it's in quadrature, with one axis brain and the other upbringing. Wonder if there's a third dimension that applies?
@cracked case I agree with much of the above except for the bit about the carry on films. They are probably more accurate than most would like to believe when it comes to the values of our society at the time they were made. Crude sexist jokes and inequalities were everyday life, most joined in rather than appear to be awkward etc. A couple of lads from my year in school who used to join in telling jokes about homosexuals turned out to be homosexuals. I'm very glad I was never confused. Except about audio cables.....in France....how does that work then? most things seem to be male or female, even a beef steak .
An audio cable can be both at the same time, male at one end and female at the other, I could see this being somewhat confusing...le cable...la cable...nah its a mains cable so its trans......
An audio cable can be both at the same time, male at one end and female at the other, I could see this being somewhat confusing...le cable...la cable...nah its a mains cable so its trans......
Did the cable thing start when CDs took over from vinyl, without a turn table to fiddle with, we had to find something else to play around with, plus the magazines needed something to replace all the stuff about spirit levels, brushes that cleaned the record as it was played etc.
I was thinking more about how the carry on films portrayed ancient Rome and the wild west.
I was thinking more about how the carry on films portrayed ancient Rome and the wild west.
Not at all. You posted something that was clearly incorrect having done no research at all and I corrected you.
Personally no and I'm responsible for a few young people walking this planet. But you started off mentioning 'gangs'. Did you mean specifically youth gangs? Those seem to have been an issue in UK since about 1840, but I haven't found good stats for gang deaths over the last 100 years yet.
Yes, that's my sleepy village.
There isn’t anything going on here that hasn’t been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. It’s just we’ve got too many people all trying to occupy the same space at the same time. Take the same .0001% of “problem children” and throw them in with millions and they become a pain in the *** for a lot of people instead of only a few. Statistically, the size of the problem hasn’t changed. You may get lucky and end up in a sleepy little village where statistics and random chance work in your favor and you have exactly zero psychopaths to worry about. You could get one and the whole place gets turned upside down. In a large enough city you’ll end up with more than just one. A couple gangs of them is par for the course.
We had a town drunk. His name was Oscar. In the summer, he'd sometimes sit under this big tree, next to the fire station. As teenagers, we'd hang with him sometimes and listen to him go on. I was with this girl one time and he'd say "Oh, I can tell you like each other" and smile his toothless smile. His famous line was about cutting something off with a butter knife; but within his fix, he was actually harmless. Attended grammar school for 6 years there and didnt have to evacuate once because he or anyone else came in and threatened the place. It was an easy mile walk from the fire station too.
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