Hey folks…..so I’ve got to put together a very low profile center channel for a 7.1.2 Atmos system for a client…..can’t be taller than 4.5” cabinet so a dome is a must. Nothing available commercially that won’t have severe off axis issues so I’ve got to get that XO point down to 1k with a steep slope. Its gotta be able to keep up and do 105db……any domes that can do this currently on the market?
In the old days that was the domain of Dynaudio and to a degree Morel.
Tough ask.
Otherwise I would suggest finding a suitable 3 - 4" full ranger like Tang Band, Mark Audio, Faital, etc., and try them.
Major benefit will be lower XO that does not need to be steep, way better integration with the midwoofs, excellent voice clarity.
Tough ask.
Otherwise I would suggest finding a suitable 3 - 4" full ranger like Tang Band, Mark Audio, Faital, etc., and try them.
Major benefit will be lower XO that does not need to be steep, way better integration with the midwoofs, excellent voice clarity.
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/bliesma/bliesma-t34b-4
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/bliesma/bliesma-t34a-4
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/satori/satori-tw29bn
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/accuton/accuton-c30-6-358-cell
https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/media/catalog/product/datasheet/peerless/DA32TX00-08.pdf
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/bliesma/bliesma-t34a-4
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/satori/satori-tw29bn
https://hificompass.com/en/speakers/measurements/accuton/accuton-c30-6-358-cell
https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/media/catalog/product/datasheet/peerless/DA32TX00-08.pdf
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If that's the case, how come I managed to cross the TW29R, TW29RN, and TW29BN at [roughly] 1KHz, to 4x Satori MW16P or Monacor SPH-176 (depending on model -these were commercial products) without ever having a single blown tweeter, and every single pair still going strong?
That's just not true.
If you read Yevgeniy's comments about measurement conditions for those tweeters you will see that they've managed to get to roughly 105dB with high pass filter anywhere between 200-800Hz depending on particular measurement. No high voltage measurement for Peerless DA32TX, but i have a hunch that it would be on par with other mentioned tweeters.
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I don't know.
105dB? Yeah?
Did you also employ a waveguide?
So many variables, yes?
I'm sure Yevgeniy will tell you everything you want to hear. Did you try it yourself?
I would not gamble on it surviving 105dB continuously.
I'll ask you the same question.
Did you try it yourself (and burned mentioned tweeters) ?
If you haven't, how can you comment ?
What is the rationale again for a 1k crossover? I am not clear on why you need such a low crossover, could you explain it again?
I doubt anybody listened at that level continuously (I hope not for their sake) but since the complete speakers were more than capable of it, and most weren't shy about cranking them in large spaces, shows & the like -yes, although as noted I wouldn't hammer any dome at those sort of levels on a constant basis, since if that's what you need, you really need pro-audio compression units or similar.
Nope.
Excellent point, a compression driver with a suitable waveguide might be the answer.
And remember, I don't need it, mayhem13 asked the question. You and I are just trying to be helpful.
I know; I was applying the word 'you' in the general rather than the individual. Apologies for any confusion!
Wavecor may have the perfect tweeter for you. Take a look at their new TW045WA01 tweeter (LINK). It's new, so there's little information other than their (quite good) datasheet. However, Vance Dickanson tested it in the April 2023 Voice Coil magazine. Perhaps someone with a VC subscription can comment on Vance's test results.
Bliesma T34 is the best choice if it it fits the budget.
Held up very well crossed at 2khz LR24 to a prosound 10" mid at high levels. I'm sure it can handle 1khz in a home setting.
Held up very well crossed at 2khz LR24 to a prosound 10" mid at high levels. I'm sure it can handle 1khz in a home setting.
