I had a blast in my one day visit. I was up for about 22.5 hrs pillow to pillow.
I took some photos of some of the more notables I experienced... in no particular order.... Forgot to others...
I liked the new Seas carbon fiber drivers. See more info in the Seas thread...Regretfully, I did not snap a photo.
Troels Ellipticor 4 ways were also present (shipped in by SS) but I only heard those at low volume.
I did not snap a photo of CSS Typhon ($5.5k), but those really sound great.
PE is soon to release a new speaker line called "Signature", that has been in the works to fill in the gaps left by Tymphany Peerless as they slowly MOQ into OEM only territory. They are close copies of the HDS frames with a different mounting ring. Performance has been Klippeled.
The Estelons were HUGE, like 7.5 footers. I had no idea they were that big. ($200k+) They sounded very good.
The Xylon Yamahas ($15k) were one of the better sounding pair present. I got to see the dome drivers and their tuned chambers, as well as the cabinet cutaway, damping tube, and xovers.
The BAYZ "C-tubes" sounded ($160k) excellent as well. A pair of Satori 9.5 woofers, and a tubular AMT between them really integrated well, and were very dynamic. I spoke with the designer and inventor of the tweeter/speaker to glean how it operated. Very well done!
MoFi 8", the new model ($3k) were present. I did not get to hear the 10 ($4k) Wow. These really are the stuff. Controlled, focused, and clean. If you purchase a commercial pair out there, these are worth the asking price and more. Andrew Jones has delivered the goods here, and I like them more than anything else I have heard from him in the past.
Triangle Art had a speaker called Metis, with an AE 15", a Beyma TPL150, and an unidentified horn loaded wide range for the mid. The clarity in the lower mids was really good, and the speaker as a whole was no slouch. I think they are meant for near wall placement, as they were basically setup that way.
Goble speakers sound very dynamic and clean, but you'll need a forklift to move them. I was surprised how good they sounded.
Clarisys dipolar panels really need to be seen and heard to be believed. I heard the 'little' ones yesterday ($33.5k), and they are so clean and transparent. I heard the Auditorium ($140k) edition a few years back, and the bass those were capable of was astounding and made the large room shudder.
Several ATC models were present and I really like the 3" mids every time I hear them. The powered 100 was quite good, but i felt the driver integration was just shy of where I prefer. The handoff was noticeable mid to tweeter. I think it was the 50 I felt lacked bass warmth, and the 11 was was good. The 11 would likely benefit from a larger cabinet as well as a slightly larger or lower capable reaching tweeter. I'm critically splitting hairs here, as they all sound good.
Another company I had not heard of that was pretty darn impressive was these. Korean source, and used 32dB/Oct elec slopes. The 4ways called Nostalgia Jr really impressed me.
Please see attached photos...
I took some photos of some of the more notables I experienced... in no particular order.... Forgot to others...
I liked the new Seas carbon fiber drivers. See more info in the Seas thread...Regretfully, I did not snap a photo.
Troels Ellipticor 4 ways were also present (shipped in by SS) but I only heard those at low volume.
I did not snap a photo of CSS Typhon ($5.5k), but those really sound great.
PE is soon to release a new speaker line called "Signature", that has been in the works to fill in the gaps left by Tymphany Peerless as they slowly MOQ into OEM only territory. They are close copies of the HDS frames with a different mounting ring. Performance has been Klippeled.
The Estelons were HUGE, like 7.5 footers. I had no idea they were that big. ($200k+) They sounded very good.
The Xylon Yamahas ($15k) were one of the better sounding pair present. I got to see the dome drivers and their tuned chambers, as well as the cabinet cutaway, damping tube, and xovers.
The BAYZ "C-tubes" sounded ($160k) excellent as well. A pair of Satori 9.5 woofers, and a tubular AMT between them really integrated well, and were very dynamic. I spoke with the designer and inventor of the tweeter/speaker to glean how it operated. Very well done!
MoFi 8", the new model ($3k) were present. I did not get to hear the 10 ($4k) Wow. These really are the stuff. Controlled, focused, and clean. If you purchase a commercial pair out there, these are worth the asking price and more. Andrew Jones has delivered the goods here, and I like them more than anything else I have heard from him in the past.
Triangle Art had a speaker called Metis, with an AE 15", a Beyma TPL150, and an unidentified horn loaded wide range for the mid. The clarity in the lower mids was really good, and the speaker as a whole was no slouch. I think they are meant for near wall placement, as they were basically setup that way.
Goble speakers sound very dynamic and clean, but you'll need a forklift to move them. I was surprised how good they sounded.
Clarisys dipolar panels really need to be seen and heard to be believed. I heard the 'little' ones yesterday ($33.5k), and they are so clean and transparent. I heard the Auditorium ($140k) edition a few years back, and the bass those were capable of was astounding and made the large room shudder.
Several ATC models were present and I really like the 3" mids every time I hear them. The powered 100 was quite good, but i felt the driver integration was just shy of where I prefer. The handoff was noticeable mid to tweeter. I think it was the 50 I felt lacked bass warmth, and the 11 was was good. The 11 would likely benefit from a larger cabinet as well as a slightly larger or lower capable reaching tweeter. I'm critically splitting hairs here, as they all sound good.
Another company I had not heard of that was pretty darn impressive was these. Korean source, and used 32dB/Oct elec slopes. The 4ways called Nostalgia Jr really impressed me.
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Great write up, Ben!PE is soon to release a new speaker line called "Signature", that has been in the works to fill in the gaps left by Tymphany Peerless as they slowly MOQ into OEM only territory. They are close copies of the HDS frames with a different mounting ring. Performance has been Klippeled.
Any idea what materials these HDS-like drivers will use? I presume round not truncated frames?
I wish Dayton would get develop a good 25mm tweeter that I can stick a waveguide on.
I wish one of the better tweeter makers would just buy a few of your designs and sell waveguide-tweeters ready to go... SB26CDC comes to mind.
Nope. If you click the link for those, the image of the xover is right there. It's a passive design.
It's the bottom middle pane showing in the image.
It's the bottom middle pane showing in the image.
Thanks for the report. The input that surprised me most is about the Mofi 8". That's not often a standalone full range is made for hifi purpose and sounds good. I have the envy to hear them now.
When a good designer designer is given carte blanche (sp), or free reign to do what he wants most, it stands to reason he'll make something really nice.
These really do sound quite good, and would or should be a one and done for a lot of people.
These really do sound quite good, and would or should be a one and done for a lot of people.
Nope. If you click the link for those, the image of the xover is right there. It's a passive design.
It's the bottom middle pane showing in the image.
Link? Went looking for it twice.
How do you get passive for an XO without a slope that is an even multiple of 6?
dave
the Mofi 8". That's not often a standalone full range
When i first saw that i figured it would do a better job than the 10. It is not FullRange, it is a 2-way coax.
dave
If you mean the MoFi 10, then no. It was a ground up new driver design.If I remember that's a german driver Joachim Gherard used as well ?
I'm just stating what the Facebook page for the company says. It is supposed to be a 5th order, so i would have said 30dB/oct, but that is not what their page says. It was there when I posted, but the link is not showing....Link? Went looking for it twice.
How do you get passive for an XO without a slope that is an even multiple of 6?
dave
https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...zbSrVjtDs6nNziT2o3ULo8P0HMjmSckMg&oe=6467149D
I just clicked on the picture and saved this link above. I'm not really sure if the company has more than a Facebook page to be honest. This seems to be the main page from what I can tell.
I just clicked on the picture and saved this link above. I'm not really sure if the company has more than a Facebook page to be honest. This seems to be the main page from what I can tell.
Did anybody see if Yamaha have exposed their NS-2000-A tower. cones are a mix of zylon and wood pulp with a 3" mid-dome ?
It must be quite satisfying to be able to start from scratch and actually specify exactly what you want. Trade offs could drive you mad though as every cent of BOM cost is in your hands.When a good designer designer is given carte blanche (sp), or free reign to do what he wants most, it stands to reason he'll make something really nice.
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