This is what Buzz Aldrin said about the dust:
"Just before touch down we could see the shadow of the Sun behind us (uh, uh,) casting a shadow against some of the dust that was sprinkling out that almost obscured our vision, but still let us look at little clumps and mounds so we could see whether we were moving over the surface or not."
Due to the exhaust pattern, the dust was sprinkling out sideways below the level of the lander's feet during the final stage of the powered descent, and this dust will have fallen to the lunar surface during the period of unpowered descent and before the lander's feet touched down.
No matter how much the lunar landing deniers bend Aldrin's words to suit their own agenda, there is no denying physics and they should STFU!
However, they will keep comng back with the same old crap as, lacking any knowledge of physics, this is the only way they can play with the big boys!
NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) was moved into a lower orbit in 2011 to capture the sharpest images ever taken from space of the Apollo 12, 14 and 17 landing sites. At the Apollo 17 site, the tracks laid down by the lunar rover are clearly visible, along with the last foot trails left on the moon.
In the following link, a 'click and drag' function allows comparison of the sharper 2011 images with the previous 2009 ones.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
As to the veracity of these images, the LRO may have been launched by NASA, but the camera and the interpretation of the images are under the control of non-affiliated academic groups which are not located in the US and are not funded by the US government, such as the German Aerospace Center, Berlin.
In the following link, a 'click and drag' function allows comparison of the sharper 2011 images with the previous 2009 ones.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
As to the veracity of these images, the LRO may have been launched by NASA, but the camera and the interpretation of the images are under the control of non-affiliated academic groups which are not located in the US and are not funded by the US government, such as the German Aerospace Center, Berlin.
Highly technical...and yet no "pattern" visible under the lander after touchdown. I suppose the "sideways" sprinkling out was in a radial fashion?
Interestingly, according to Philip Metzger of NASA's Kennedy Space Center (KSC), some of the high velocity dust particles blown outwards by the descent engine were seen by the Apollo astronauts to fly right out over the horizon and keep on going!
The image on the right shows the sideways radial pattern of the dust being blasted across the lunar surface.
Dust particles are estimated as having been travelling with a horizontal velocity of up to 1.5 miles/sec, fast enough to almost escape the Moon's gravity!
The Surveyor 3 unmanned craft, which sat only 600 feet from the descending Apollo 12 lunar module (LM) in November 1969, was pitted by hundreds of micro-craters due to high speed dust bombardment. Study of the Surveyor camera returned to Earth by the Apollo 12 astronauts produced a confirming estimate of the speed of dust particles propelled by the LM's exhaust.
The image on the right shows the sideways radial pattern of the dust being blasted across the lunar surface.
Dust particles are estimated as having been travelling with a horizontal velocity of up to 1.5 miles/sec, fast enough to almost escape the Moon's gravity!
The Surveyor 3 unmanned craft, which sat only 600 feet from the descending Apollo 12 lunar module (LM) in November 1969, was pitted by hundreds of micro-craters due to high speed dust bombardment. Study of the Surveyor camera returned to Earth by the Apollo 12 astronauts produced a confirming estimate of the speed of dust particles propelled by the LM's exhaust.
Finally, you're beginning to understand what a ballistic trajectory implies! Keep working on your science.....
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My goodness! Your understanding is very exacting! So, what would you estimate the velocity of those grains of dust would have been? Oh, and from where pray tell are they coming from, ie: being kicked up from.>??
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For me there's one overriding argument that the moon landings were definitely not faked.
We all know that any government is totally unable to hide anything from the populace for any length of time, even if only two persons know it.
History is replete with cases where cover ups were exposed, again and again, from Watergate to the Jan 6 incursion.
Now you want me to believe that they have succeeded with this moon landing cover up, with 1000-s of people involved, for 50+ years?
Gimme a break.
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We all know that any government is totally unable to hide anything from the populace for any length of time, even if only two persons know it.
History is replete with cases where cover ups were exposed, again and again, from Watergate to the Jan 6 incursion.
Now you want me to believe that they have succeeded with this moon landing cover up, with 1000-s of people involved, for 50+ years?
Gimme a break.
Jan
Still there is people that claims lunar landing is a hoax and NASA faked it all. Just like flat earthers ...
You'll find no science to be forthcoming, only a repeated regurgitation of alphabet soup!
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I know that within FE circles its a game to come up with arguments for a FE or to dismantle arguments for a globe. Nevertheless, after a few beers most of them confess that's all it is, a highly intelligent game. Most I've met (actually ALL I've met, a dozen or so) don't deny it's a globe.
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Some of those arguments are very intelligently and logically constructed, and it is exceedingly hard to poke a hole in it. These guys are smart.
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At the same time as Apollo 11, the Soviets launched the Luna 15 unmanned mission to the Moon. The Soviets hoped to beat the Americans by being the first to return lunar rock samples to Earth. Luna 15 orbited and, ultimately, crash-landed on the Moon whilst the Apollo astronauts were still on the Moon’s surface.
If the Apollo 11 landing had never taken place, one can be sure that the Soviets would have debunked it at the time because they, like the radio astronomers in the UK, had the facilities to track the Apollo mission.
The fact that the Soviets never denied the American Moon landings speaks volumes as to the authenticity of the missions.
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Fascinating information about dust particles, never knew this. So a permanent moon settlement will have to be shielded against lunar landings, no astronauts waiting to greet new arrivals either.
Tacit collusion. #1, and #2. Remember the cold war. The struggle to jockey for position, and finally capitulation. Unspoken but understood.
no suggestion the Soviets were privy to the actual plan, but...logic prevails.
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