Who said anything about 'always true' except you?
Snoop and KRS-One have the 'proper' backgrounds but Tupac's for example was intellectual middle class.
Kanye West's father was a photojournalist and his mom the chair of the English Dept at Chicago State University etc.
his parents were black panthers in Harlem. I would assume that gives them 'cred'?
It was implied by your statement. Perhaps I misinterpreted you.
Also there is no 'proper' background for rap music... You just need to be talented. Eminem is a good example of an artist that never pretended to be a gang banger...
Kris Kross were talented artists that rapped about the opposite of gangster lifestyle... "I missed the bus" is a song about missing the bus and being late for school.
Of course, these are hip hop stars, not gangster rappers... They talk about more than blunts, forties, and bitches...
Hiphop is usually more intellectual and I much prefer that.
Back in the day the Black Panthers were more of a civic organization than a gang. Even the Disciples, now notorious, were kind of a civic organization in the 60s and early 70s.
Of course the press at the time vilified the Black Panthers as a criminal organization. The police shooting of Fred Hampton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton pretty much galvanized the public's sentiment that the Black Panthers were more a force for good in their community than not. And even in the racist, segregated Chicago of the time, people were shocked at the brutal raid of Hampton's apartment and the execution style shooting by the police. The narrative collapsed with this event. I remember it well and even as a little kid I was horrified.
We even have a former Black Panther in the Illinois House. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Rush
Of course the press at the time vilified the Black Panthers as a criminal organization. The police shooting of Fred Hampton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton pretty much galvanized the public's sentiment that the Black Panthers were more a force for good in their community than not. And even in the racist, segregated Chicago of the time, people were shocked at the brutal raid of Hampton's apartment and the execution style shooting by the police. The narrative collapsed with this event. I remember it well and even as a little kid I was horrified.
We even have a former Black Panther in the Illinois House. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Rush
See that could be a country and western song, although that might be more 'my pickup had a flat and I had to shoot my dawg' start to the day. 😀
No ****, Sherlock.
Not sure how anybody could interpret 'many' or 'most' as all of them or always but apparently you managed to do just that.
A fine film noted for it's use of watercolours for the background scenes, a technique which had been abandoned in the 1940s.
I had a conversation with a young women at work just a few months ago planning her wedding and looking for music.
Her - "Someone recommended songs from an old band called the Beatles, have you heard of them?"
Me - "Yes, they are very popular, not my cup of tea but worth checking out. If you are looking for oldies I would recommend listing to some Roy Orbison and Willie Nelson as well."
Her - "Thanks, could you send me that in an email so I get the spelling?"
Me - "Yep"
"All that gun-slinging, drug-fueled ghetto **** is just BS marketing" is what I was referring to. No need to be so rude or condescending. Unless you're just always like that? Maybe it's just normal for you?
I admit I listen to Patsy Cline from time to time. Even bought the four CD set somewhere back in the 90s. I probably first recognized her singing when I was eight.
Assorted disjointed Patsy related things to follow:
Years ago, some co-worker was talking up the 70s British rockers that took over the music scene and drank heavily and took massive amounts of drugs.
I had to shoot back that Hank Williams and Patsy Cline totally out did them as far as drinking and drug use.
I could probably put together a perfect Patsy Cline playlist to induce dog howling.
The western music genre that Patsy took on was all about the western movie and TV shows that were all about popping cap and settling any differences with guns and more guns.
She was really good at singing.
Assorted disjointed Patsy related things to follow:
Years ago, some co-worker was talking up the 70s British rockers that took over the music scene and drank heavily and took massive amounts of drugs.
I had to shoot back that Hank Williams and Patsy Cline totally out did them as far as drinking and drug use.
I could probably put together a perfect Patsy Cline playlist to induce dog howling.
The western music genre that Patsy took on was all about the western movie and TV shows that were all about popping cap and settling any differences with guns and more guns.
She was really good at singing.
My Daughter´s schoolmate "discovered" Beatles when they were 12 or 14, and he was sad "he could talk with nobody about that" because his Friends had no clue or interest.
My Daughter told him "hey, talk with my dad, he´s all into old Music " (emphasis on "old" 🙁 )
So when later I picked her up, he shyly asked me.
After some small talk about them, he run to his mom, very excited: "Mom! Mom! ... Victoria´s Father knows and likes the Beatles!!! He knows their songs names!!!!" 😱
I guess that sets the reference level and confirms my Flintstones Club membership 🙁
My Daughter told him "hey, talk with my dad, he´s all into old Music " (emphasis on "old" 🙁 )
So when later I picked her up, he shyly asked me.
After some small talk about them, he run to his mom, very excited: "Mom! Mom! ... Victoria´s Father knows and likes the Beatles!!! He knows their songs names!!!!" 😱
I guess that sets the reference level and confirms my Flintstones Club membership 🙁
Lousy voice imo. Could be just the recording. I wonder what she'd sound like with today's tech.
The secret is to take joy in introducing a youngling to some new music. My spawn have certainly introduced me to some. My older brood have considered me a dinosaur for nearly a decade now 😀 Example:
#3 daughter 'look that's Nicki Minaj'
Me: 'what is Nicki Minaj?'
And quick embedded quiz: Is Ed Sheeran a great musician for being able to fill a stadium single handed or a greedy money grabber for not bothering with a band? (and if 1% of the responders here know of him I'll be suprised, but my kids keep going to his concerts)
I know the name (Ed Sheeran) but not his music. But riddle me this - is any stand-up comic lazy for filling a stadium with only himself and a mic?
I have a few Yes albums, OK, more than a few. I have also seen them in concert three or four times including the Tales From Topographic Oceans tour, and the tour that spawned the Yessongs triple live album. The last time I saw them Oliver Wakeman (Rick's son) was playing the keys.
These are pics from the 2008 show with Oliver, taken with a new Samsung Galaxy S1, known then as just Galaxy S. Pretty crappy camera by today's standards.
Tears For Fears were well known here by anyone who watched MTV when the M stood for music, not mediocrity. I still have The Hurting on vinyl.
Attachments
I have the 12" of Shout. Bought it for the B Side "The Big Chair".