i don't know why but i can't see other people's posts in my thread, however ramya suggested to me that these suomi are called 'sketch', do you know anything about it?
Hi,
Your question is very specific and belong more to sound design. 😉
Anyway, this kind of sound might have 'a name' ( some classics have like 'reese' ) but i don't know it in this case.
Here is a tutorial on how to achieve it:
Your question is very specific and belong more to sound design. 😉
Anyway, this kind of sound might have 'a name' ( some classics have like 'reese' ) but i don't know it in this case.
Here is a tutorial on how to achieve it:
what is reese? and anyway I tried and I think they are square waves synthesized with square waves of other frequencies, I don't know maybe I'm wrong
perhaps the only way is to do the spectrum analysis of those few seconds and see how many waves there are and what types
'Reese' or 'hoover' is a kind of synthetizer sound used in Drum & Bass ( and other electronic genre). It's an 'anthem' or signature sound from the genre ( like the drum pattern).
If you want to know more about it's history:
https://flypaper.soundfly.com/produce/history-of-the-reese-bass-synth-sound/
If you want to know how to achieve it:
There is other 'signature sound' in drum and bass with weird names like 'mentasm', the 'amen break',... each genre as it's own.
For Major's lazer sound please follow the previous link, it's decomposed: there is 4 oscillators with differents waveforms, phase offset, distortion and layering ( as well as modulation of pitch by enveloppes) of a multiple of 'voices' ( bank of oscillators playing the same waveform at the same time). I've not counted but there is maybe 20 oscillators playing at same time.
If you want to know more about it's history:
https://flypaper.soundfly.com/produce/history-of-the-reese-bass-synth-sound/
If you want to know how to achieve it:
There is other 'signature sound' in drum and bass with weird names like 'mentasm', the 'amen break',... each genre as it's own.
For Major's lazer sound please follow the previous link, it's decomposed: there is 4 oscillators with differents waveforms, phase offset, distortion and layering ( as well as modulation of pitch by enveloppes) of a multiple of 'voices' ( bank of oscillators playing the same waveform at the same time). I've not counted but there is maybe 20 oscillators playing at same time.
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wow did you analyze those major lazer parts? if he did, you're in genius, because you understand a lot from the analysis
No, i'm not a genius at all but i use synths for long enough time to understand what the guy is doing.
There is 22 voices playing each time a key is depressed divided into two layer ( A/B) A having two oscilators ( each with 8 voices assigned), B only one oscillator ( 6 voices assigned to it). Filter on A id bandpass, on b lowpass with resonance on both.
It's all in the tutorial, watch it many time.
Better to find 'fruity loop' ( the software he use) and try replicate it to understand what happen. Lot of fun. 🙂
There is 22 voices playing each time a key is depressed divided into two layer ( A/B) A having two oscilators ( each with 8 voices assigned), B only one oscillator ( 6 voices assigned to it). Filter on A id bandpass, on b lowpass with resonance on both.
It's all in the tutorial, watch it many time.
Better to find 'fruity loop' ( the software he use) and try replicate it to understand what happen. Lot of fun. 🙂
ok now I look at it and see I understand something, I'll let you know as soon as possible
The rhythm also affects the feel. The first 'note' is right on the beat, while the 2nd and 3rd are slightly late. I can't hear exactly but I think the 4th is on time again. It will sound excessively tight or mechanical if all 'notes' are on time.
yes I had guessed it too, so what does it mean, that the effect is due to the rhythm, and therefore with high frequency delayed notes?
Well,
I fully understand one can be inner moved by synthetical sound/music. Even more when played as intended for ( on a big soundsystem).
I still have goosebump when thinking about the first time i played this tune on a big freeparty: the 'reese' just blew my mind... as it did for the peoples on the dancefloor! Still an Anthem (almost) 25 years after it's release... and kids still scream at it today even if oldschool!
I fully understand one can be inner moved by synthetical sound/music. Even more when played as intended for ( on a big soundsystem).
I still have goosebump when thinking about the first time i played this tune on a big freeparty: the 'reese' just blew my mind... as it did for the peoples on the dancefloor! Still an Anthem (almost) 25 years after it's release... and kids still scream at it today even if oldschool!
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I grew up in the advent of digital synths and later non linear audio editing. Alot of these so called "tricks" electronic music producers use are based on analog amplitude and frequency modulation IOW AM and FM synthesis. My first digital synth was a Yamaha DX7-II and then an Emulator 2 sampler with analog filter capability. Between both synths, a Mini Moog, Oberheim DMX and an SL1200, i could do pretty much anything I wanted to musically adding a bit of tape splicing.
I lost interest in electronic music once the 1000bpm rave crap showed up. I still dabble in electronic music and do remixes in Steinberg's Wavelab software, but can't stand alot of the newer, hyper compressed stuff spit out by people who can't properly use Ableton (the software most EDM guys use). Artists like Deadmau5 and Zedd do some interesting stuff but alot of the other junk is pretty lame, mainly because they all just sound the same to me. I especially hate it when people call themselves a DJ... real DJs use vinyl or at minimum CD players used in analog fashion, but not a laptop. I was a club DJ in the 80s and things sounded much better then.
I lost interest in electronic music once the 1000bpm rave crap showed up. I still dabble in electronic music and do remixes in Steinberg's Wavelab software, but can't stand alot of the newer, hyper compressed stuff spit out by people who can't properly use Ableton (the software most EDM guys use). Artists like Deadmau5 and Zedd do some interesting stuff but alot of the other junk is pretty lame, mainly because they all just sound the same to me. I especially hate it when people call themselves a DJ... real DJs use vinyl or at minimum CD players used in analog fashion, but not a laptop. I was a club DJ in the 80s and things sounded much better then.
I tend to agree about everything sounding the same this days... this is because everything is done with the same vst.
Digital opened a lot of horizon but at the same time closed a lot of interesting behavior.
Limitation push to be creative.
I still have hardware synth, digital and analog, samplers, hardware fx... it'is fun to have kids seeing how we did it. What? you use a guitar distortion? Yep kid, Rat is your friend... 🙂
When D&B switched from mainly vinyl distribution to digital i've lost interest in the sound... tape 'warmth' added something. Now they can go lower in freq, compress the hell out of anything but it miss that thing in the 60/100hz range.
Your not a dj if you can't synch with a pair of 1200 and your ears and fingers. Bar none. At best you are a 'selecta' ( like in reggae soundsystem culture).
Digital opened a lot of horizon but at the same time closed a lot of interesting behavior.
Limitation push to be creative.
I still have hardware synth, digital and analog, samplers, hardware fx... it'is fun to have kids seeing how we did it. What? you use a guitar distortion? Yep kid, Rat is your friend... 🙂
When D&B switched from mainly vinyl distribution to digital i've lost interest in the sound... tape 'warmth' added something. Now they can go lower in freq, compress the hell out of anything but it miss that thing in the 60/100hz range.
Your not a dj if you can't synch with a pair of 1200 and your ears and fingers. Bar none. At best you are a 'selecta' ( like in reggae soundsystem culture).
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wow could you then explain me better how to produce these sound "tricks"? you said they are based on analog amplitude, and FM synthesis, so how can I produce them, what's the secret?
so that effect I am looking for can I get better from vintage media such as vinyls or are simple digital synthesizers enough for me?
no I'm healthy I have no epilepsy, the word "paralysis" was an example, I mean that those sounds involve you for a few seconds making you focus only on their sound