Of course I noticed it was a joke and so was my reaction if you did not get that (“stop the time”). In other languages it is “forbidden” to use a comma when the word “and” is used. Since I am more into those languages I tend to mix such rules in english (which for me only is a forced necessity).
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My apologies jean-paul, it went right over my head! 😳
Use of the Oxford comma is often essential for disambiguation of a list:
I love my parents, Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty.
I love my parents, Lady Gaga, and Humpty Dumpty.
In other languages the last comma would be seen as superfluous. Both sentences would mean exactly the same. More specific this also counts when using “but”. No comma allowed.
If the emphasis should be on Humpty Dumpty then it would be written like “… and Humpty Dumpty”.
If the emphasis should be on Humpty Dumpty then it would be written like “… and Humpty Dumpty”.
If you read where the above quote (lady gaga etc...) likely comes from, the disambiguation argument is shown as optional - it's not truly ambiguous. It's pedantry to a large extent!
See:
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/
See:
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/
Simply NO as in dutch it is “forbidden” to use a comma before “and” (“en” in Dutch).
Even if the comma is accepted as usual with anglicisms then still it would mean about the same and not something completely different.
I bet you mean post #158.
Even if the comma is accepted as usual with anglicisms then still it would mean about the same and not something completely different.
I bet you mean post #158.
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No, 162.
I read the first sentence that the parents are LG and HD which he loves.
I read the 2nd sentence that there are two parents, plus LG, plus HD, so he states he loves 4 people.
BTW You are right in Dutch it is different/illegal.
Jan
I read the first sentence that the parents are LG and HD which he loves.
I read the 2nd sentence that there are two parents, plus LG, plus HD, so he states he loves 4 people.
BTW You are right in Dutch it is different/illegal.
Jan
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Again wrong, sorry. Why? The first sentence also has a comma. When LG and HD would be the parents in Dutch there would be no comma there.
Like many you read sentences like in english and these example sentences ARE in english. Too bad these practices are entering other languages, it doesn’t make things easier.
With dutch language rules:
I love my parents, Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty = I love my parents and Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty
I love my parents, Lady Gaga, and Humpty Dumpty = I love my patents and Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty.
I love my parents Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty = I love my patents (who are) Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty
I love my parents, Lady Gaga, and… Humpty Dumpty = I love my parents and lady Gaga and (emphasis) Humpty Dumpty
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Yes but you reacted on post #163.
Imagine the hell it is to be fluent in ones mother language including interpunction 🙂
I pointed out that this is simply not the case. In Dutch they would mean the same.
Imagine the hell it is to be fluent in ones mother language including interpunction 🙂
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I could have been a proofreader. I have found many spelling and grammar errors in newspapers and other periodicals, signs, books, and even T-shirts. It makes me wonder how it got by the proofreader. This irks me, because if you're a writer or sign maker, then your spelling and grammar should be impeccable. Somebody paid to have a sign or T shirt made and there's a glaring error on it? I find that unacceptable.
This really bothered me during my time of underemployment/unemployment. I can't get a decent job but an incompetent hack can? It drove me crazy until I realized that employment in this county had little to do with ability any more; it was largely driven by demographics and data. And since I was over 50, my demographic data (my college degrees) were "expired" according to prospective employers. Stupid? It's almost a parody of stupid, but I just laugh at the bozos now. Let them destroy the country with their slavish devotion to demographics. I'll be dead and they'll be scratching their man buns wondering what happened.
One job I interviewed for had multiple errors on their website. I pointed this out during the interview and they said thanks but didn't hire me. They did correct their website though. Maybe I should have sent them a bill?
Its quite easy to sit on a high horse but to call someone who doesn’t use proper english ‘ignorant’ is rather ignorant in of itself. In the Appalachian mountains each area developed its own dialect, much due to isolation but also for identification of outsiders or going way back to identify your clan, many of which were warring.
The feller identified as ‘old man with a moonshine still’ (see attachment) is Popcorn Sutton, he was a neighbor and friend and to talk to him you”d never equate the genius that he was, that man made some of the best liqour i‘ve ever had and if in his circle talking trash about folks held dear it might very well learn ya just how wrong one was…….if you even made it out of the holler.
Moral is just because someone doesn‘t communicate to some imposed standard doesn’t make them ignorant…..just different. 😒
https://www.usaonrace.com/feature-s...n-mountain-people-a-study-of-stereotypes.html
The feller identified as ‘old man with a moonshine still’ (see attachment) is Popcorn Sutton, he was a neighbor and friend and to talk to him you”d never equate the genius that he was, that man made some of the best liqour i‘ve ever had and if in his circle talking trash about folks held dear it might very well learn ya just how wrong one was…….if you even made it out of the holler.
Moral is just because someone doesn‘t communicate to some imposed standard doesn’t make them ignorant…..just different. 😒
https://www.usaonrace.com/feature-s...n-mountain-people-a-study-of-stereotypes.html
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As soon as I opened that link I saw a glaring error. Can you spot it?
It's a failure of community and government if people don't get a decent basic education. People with disadvantaged backgrounds or conditions like dyslexia aren't at fault. BUT if you are given the opportunity to get an education and have average or better intellectual capacity, then it is your fault for not achieving basic literacy.
I would never fault a person that didn't get a basic education, or call them stupid. I grew up in a thuggish neighborhood but even the local public schools offered a decent basic education if you wanted it. Of course they graduated many illiterates too; if they didn't there would be a whole lot of 25 year old sophomores.
The Appalachian guy with skills? I respect that. I still think it's a shame that a basic education wasn't available to him.
It's a failure of community and government if people don't get a decent basic education. People with disadvantaged backgrounds or conditions like dyslexia aren't at fault. BUT if you are given the opportunity to get an education and have average or better intellectual capacity, then it is your fault for not achieving basic literacy.
I would never fault a person that didn't get a basic education, or call them stupid. I grew up in a thuggish neighborhood but even the local public schools offered a decent basic education if you wanted it. Of course they graduated many illiterates too; if they didn't there would be a whole lot of 25 year old sophomores.
The Appalachian guy with skills? I respect that. I still think it's a shame that a basic education wasn't available to him.
And I'll share this observation of my old hood's high school. The people I know that graduated without basic literacy fall in two categories. The first category is people with undiagnosed issues (like vision problems). The second category is people (guys) that aspired to the thug life and just couldn't be bothered to learn how to read or write.
I agree with this. When I was in school (1960s and 1970s) many educators said I had extraordinary intelligence. I was always placed in advanced curriculum classes.
Why was I considered such a genius by the educational system? Test scores for math and reading comprehension. That's it. I'm a math wizard and I'm highly literate. Other than that, I'm no genius. I've done stupid things and made a lot of mistakes in my life. In fact, I can be quite awkward and clumsy. I have no towering achievements and in fact have grossly underachieved considering my talents. I've faltered and failed many times.
So much for being a genius. Quite franky, I'd rather be stupid and happy. I'd trade 30 IQ points for a more agreeable temperament right now.
Yah Eddie, some people are just too smart for their own good…… Nothing i‘ll ever have to worry about! 😆