Emotiva T2+ are bad. They are neither Neutral nor Warm nor Bright. They were trying to cover lot of ground at a time and ended up being nowhere.
Would pick JBL Studio Series over it or even Klipsch Premier Series.
And to think, if they'd only taken the time to find the perfect list of highest value for dollar components, they could have nailed it 😏
Nah man look at JBL Studio series. It is Bright and very detailed and crisp. Only has bad dispersion. Specifically the Center. They ruined it. Really low budget offering which kicks up with higher budget models.
It is useful to know that you view such speakers to be bad rather than the more conventional view that they are high value for money entry level high fidelity speakers. Now it is not unusual for people to be enthusiastic about something other than conventional high fidelity and I am rather partial to the characteristic sound of large midwoofers and some omni-directional speakers. However, unless you can get across what you want from the sound of a speaker it is likely to be difficult for many here to provide useful input on the topic. Costs are obviously less influenced by preference.
I am not crazy but decently in for HiFi Music and Multi-Channel Movies. Have very decent Headphones Setup and been through many speaker setups and have a certain expectation on how given media content should sound.
For Movies I prefer Bright or Warm sounding speakers/headphones.
For Music I prefer Neutral or Warm speakers/headphones.
Emotiva Lineup was Decent for All but "Great for Nothing". That was Neither Bright or bit Laid back for Movies nor is Neutral to be good for Music. It kinda tried all but missed all. Hence that was not a satisfactory result at all.
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The 2 way I linked to on youtube, could maybe be transformed to a 3 way. I believe there are slightly smaller waveguides/horns, that can properly match a smaller more dedicated midrange - and then add a woofer. When making it active - both gain and timing, is a breeze in the DSP.
Further. Even the smallest Fusion 123.... would be pretty powerful, with the higher sensitivity of the pro drivers.
I have to admit though... maybe the compression driver, with it's very high sensitivity... might provoke a noticeable hiss.
This could maybe be solved with a work-around... by using a 2 way plate amp instead ( cheaper too).... and then make the midrange/tweeter combo passive.. and then run them as a "module" with the active woofer - giving you a 3 way half-active speaker. Almost all the pros, but maybe less hiss, and keeping the possibility to EQ almost everything.
The 2 way I linked to on youtube, could maybe be transformed to a 3 way. I believe there are slightly smaller waveguides/horns, that can properly match a smaller more dedicated midrange - and then add a woofer. When making it active - both gain and timing, is a breeze in the DSP.
Further. Even the smallest Fusion 123.... would be pretty powerful, with the higher sensitivity of the pro drivers.
I have to admit though... maybe the compression driver, with it's very high sensitivity... might provoke a noticeable hiss.
This could maybe be solved with a work-around... by using a 2 way plate amp instead ( cheaper too).... and then make the midrange/tweeter combo passive.. and then run them as a "module" with the active woofer - giving you a 3 way half-active speaker. Almost all the pros, but maybe less hiss, and keeping the possibility to EQ almost everything.
Okay will look into it. Thanks to introduce me to Hybrid stuff. Interesting. Can be bit complex but interesting.
Really? See what one can get for your kind of money, all brands, almost !!
https://www.olx.in/cars_c84?filter=price_between_200000_to_299999
I thought I would be considered crazy if I were to spend that kind of money on a pair of Headphones and not on a pair of Speakers. I think this is normal with the way current prices on even regular stuff is going.
It’s been pretty well established that what you hear is mainly determined by the room's acoustical characteristics, where you sit, and where the speakers are placed. The speakers, of course, energize that system, but whether you can really discern subtle differences between various comparable speakers remains a big uncertainty given the overpowering effect of these non-speaker parameters.
So, whether the ability to tweak the crossovers in an active system is really much of an advantage remains a highly debatable issue given that so much of what you hear is non-speaker dependent anyhow.
And in an HT system where your primary focus is on the video and story aspect the question is whether very subtle, at best, improvements in the audio really are worth all of time, expense, and trouble to implement them.
To say it another way, when you are watching a movie do you really think you will be aware of any difference between active speakers versus passive ones. I seriously doubt that you will.
So, whether the ability to tweak the crossovers in an active system is really much of an advantage remains a highly debatable issue given that so much of what you hear is non-speaker dependent anyhow.
And in an HT system where your primary focus is on the video and story aspect the question is whether very subtle, at best, improvements in the audio really are worth all of time, expense, and trouble to implement them.
To say it another way, when you are watching a movie do you really think you will be aware of any difference between active speakers versus passive ones. I seriously doubt that you will.
It's home-theatre, any cheap speaker will work if the speakers are all the same or have the same tonality and smallish[ 6" ] 2-way are OK so long as they cover that important 300 to 3000 "intelligence" band. In HT the best bang-for-buck is in getting good bass for LFE from really good subwoofers
Exactly right. And that is why the Center channel speaker is so critical in creating an HT system.
Why waste your money tho??
Although it is yours to throw away if you wish.
But unless you have $10,000USD to spend on room treatment spending all that cash on speakers won't make all that much difference.
Personal opinion but experience based
Although it is yours to throw away if you wish.
But unless you have $10,000USD to spend on room treatment spending all that cash on speakers won't make all that much difference.
Personal opinion but experience based
That's essentially the same point I was making a few posts back. The room itself, listening position, and speaker position are such large factors in what you hear that using the same set of drivers with either passive or active crossovers isn't going to result in any significant audible difference. And when the use is mostly for HT the difference, if any, is not worth the trouble or cost to worry about it.
I did exactly what you are proposing. I went through numerous sets of expensive (that is a relative term) store bought speaker, the last being a set of Sonus Faber Cremonas (~$13k). After about 10 years of listening to them I wanted to step up to the next level, except that was about $40k just for some passive speakers. Now I had the money to buy them, but after pulling the Cremonas apart to see what was in them, I decided I was paying a bit too much for a pretty box.
Now don't get me wrong there is a lot of R&D that goes into their speakers, but does that R&D justify the price? In my mind the answer was no. I discovered what drivers were in them and proceeded to buy the next level up from there (tweeters were WAY WAY WAY above what they used). I also bought an expensive active crossover, an expensive multi channel amplifier.
By the time I was done I spent more than the original $13k but the sound was infinitely better than the Cremonas, and a whole lot less than the $40k ones. I listen with my ears not my eyes. My speakers may not be as pretty but they sure sound a lot better.
I know that is why I am trying to save money. Saving money doesn't mean to compromise on Audio Quality though.
And room treatment is important I plan to do it. But not to that crazy extent. Will be spending $2K for DIY treatment.
Guys I know. But the speakers itself play a lot into how the Audio Quality ends up being. I can bet that $2000 Paradigm Towers+ $2000 Room Treatment gonna be better much better than $800 Klipsch Towers + $3200 Room Treatment.
Room treatment is essential. But if you think that it outweighs Speaker selection. Then that is wrong.
Yes. That was my purpose to ask the question in the first place. See if it is possible to create similar or better sounding DIY speaker for much less cost then why not.
Couldn't disagree more... Quality speakers are going to sound better regardless of the room.
You are not going to get the most out of those speakers without optimizing the room, but like for like the better speakers are going to sound better in the same room.