ES9038Q2M Board

Regarding 30 users, it means nothing. The number of people who didn't like the stock sound of the dac boards might be just as big or bigger. Jumping to conclusions about it also means nothing.
There are however 2 big differences in how these opinions were formed. In Altor's case the users had the possibility to compare all options. Hardware modifications as done in this thread do not allow comparisons between "old" and "new". The other big difference is the expectation bias. In Altor's case the users had none unless they were told in advance what the options were about. OTOH hardware modifications are in most cases done based on assumption of improvement or recommendations. Hence the expectation bias is very strong.
 
You know very well that its the part of it that is lie, the whole thing.
Do you, or do you not have a "golden ear"?
If you don't then why should anyone take your listening tests seriously?

As for the "self proclaimed" part. You constantly tell us how well developed your listening skills are. without providing any evidence. We have to take your word for it. Isn't that "self proclaimed"?

I see no lie here.
 
Do you, or do you not have a "golden ear"?

No. What I have reported hearing that some other people doesn't hear has virtually nothing to do with my ears. It has to do with paying attention rather than ignoring, that's all.

Isn't that "self proclaimed"?

No.

"adjective. Britannica Dictionary definition of SELF–PROCLAIMED. always used before a noun usually disapproving. : giving yourself a particular name, title, etc., usually without any reason or proof that would cause other people to agree with you. the self-proclaimed king of pop."

I have NOT given myself any particular name or title, and you know it.
 
No. What I have reported hearing that some other people doesn't hear has virtually nothing to do with my ears. It has to do with paying attention rather than ignoring, that's all.
We are already talking about "listening" not "hearing", so your comment is moot. Unless of course you believe that you are the only person that listens!

Listening has virtually nothing to do with your ears??? How do you listen without them?
No.

"adjective. Britannica Dictionary definition of SELF–PROCLAIMED. always used before a noun usually disapproving. : giving yourself a particular name, title, etc., usually without any reason or proof that would cause other people to agree with you. the self-proclaimed king of pop."

I have NOT given myself any particular name or title, and you know it.
But you HAVE made all the claims necessary to justify such a title. In fact you become irritated when not shown the deference, you believe that title deserves.
 
But you HAVE made all the claims necessary to justify such a title.

I have not made any such claim and you know it. Furthermore, it is you and Mr. Harmonics that are trying to assign it to me. You two agree, therefore if I ever did make such a claim, the part of the definition that requires others to disagree would be violated by the agreement of you two. Either way the conditions necessary for 'self-proclaimed' are not met. Therefore you should stop making false and disparaging remarks about other people. It is a violation of the rules to do so.
 
As for the test method of "IIRC so far two participants in this thread LIKE the dac sound in stock form. All the others were not SATISFIED with the stock sound"?
As far the listening goes, a person has a freedom to LIKE the sound and say - it sounds good, or opposite... whatever material their ears are made of.
These impressions usually are reflected in the tests and reviews, so take it or leave.
Another matter is technical specifications, provided by the manufacturer and revealing the conditions how to achieve this.
Regarding this particular board, its objective performance has been measured several times, for instance, see the message #1,106.
For myself the board served as a template to test the impact of different power and output stage solutions and upon these mods the sound changed to the direction I liked more (may I say SQ improved?) and the performance improved as well.
Anyone can have different opinion, so please don't waste your time to argue...
 
As far the listening goes, a person has a freedom to LIKE the sound and say - it sounds good, or opposite... whatever material their ears are made of.
These impressions usually are reflected in the tests and reviews, so take it or leave.
Anyone can have different opinion, so please don't waste your time to argue...
You missed what the argument is about. I've asked what kind of listening comparison it was and the details of setup which Markw4 won't answer.
Anyone can have opinion / impressions on any test. Some have reported their preference on speaker cables when they were told which pair was connected without physically changing them. Test detail is important so try not to sweep it under the rug.
 
You missed what the argument is about. I've asked what kind of listening comparison it was and the details of setup which Markw4 won't answer.
Anyone can have opinion / impressions on any test. Some have reported their preference on speaker cables when they were told which pair was connected without physically changing them. Test detail is important so try not to sweep it under the rug.
So what? How this argument is concerning the particular ES8938Q2M implementation what this topic is about? Markw4 has spoken, so you have. He doesn't owe you anything, neither you can continuously demand more. Have a little self respect after all.
 
People can claim all kinds of things just like your advertisement post for Jam's cables and then claiming on the same post, "I did not write the above for any commercial purpose." You have long history of that.

Only in your opinion. What I wrote about the cables was entirely factual. Nothing was made up. If it looks like commercial writing, that's only because commercials try to mimic what humans really say with they are impressed and surprised. After writing it I realized someone might misinterpret it, so I made clear it was NOT a commercial. Some people have managed to misinterpret it anyway despite the clear statement that it was NOT commercial. If anything, to me it was newsworthy, and appropriate for the thread where I described my discoveries with DAC design, as I used the cables at first only for the DAC outputs.

Beyond the foregoing, I now use only those cables for all my interconnects. I have it on condition I am not allowed to sell any of it or give it away. The design is not my IP, so I agreed to the terms. BTW, the cable is still not for sale and my never be.
 
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Only in your opinion. What I wrote about the cables was entirely factual. Nothing was made up.
Can you quote where I wrote that you made something up?
If it looks like commercial writing, that's only because commercials try to mimic what humans really say with they are impressed and surprised. After writing it I realized someone might misinterpret it, so I made clear it was NOT a commercial. Some people have managed to misinterpret it anyway despite the clear statement that it was NOT commercial. If anything, to me it was newsworthy, and appropriate for the thread where I described my discoveries with DAC design, as I used the cables at first only for the DAC outputs.
"Next year one of Jam's audio businesses will start selling cables designed by him." is an advertisement. Unless you consider that your sound character description while listening to cables.
 
...is an advertisement.
In your opinion only. For example, if there is a news report that says, "Tesla has been developing a new battery technology predicted to be available next summer which is expected to make home solar generated power more practical during off-hours when there is little or no sunlight," then that can be news which then could interest different people for different reasons. Offered as news it doesn't have to be interpreted as an advertisement. That would be up to the interpretation of each reader.
 
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Offered as news it doesn't have to be interpreted as an advertisement.
Doesn't have to be, meaning it's not definite. Ok, so, when you keep repeating that I'm on your ignore list, that doesn't have to be interpreted as I'm on your ignore list, as demonstrated by your responses to me. Got it.

As for the test method of "IIRC so far two participants in this thread LIKE the dac sound in stock form. All the others were not SATISFIED with the stock sound" and the quote of where I wrote that you made something up? :unsure:
 
Doesn't have to be, meaning it's not definite. Ok, so, when you keep repeating that I'm on your ignore list, that doesn't have to be interpreted as I'm on your ignore list, as demonstrated by your responses to me. Got it.

You're on my ignore list (and have been for several years now) but this post shows there's a bug in the system. Congratulations, you've found a way to defeat the 'ignore member' function.
 
...the quote of where I wrote that you made something up?

You use all sorts of tactics in your efforts to enforce your own views on other people. Picking one word that I used in context of explaining something I wrote in the past does not mean the word has to be about you. I wrote to explain to people reading along what actually happened back then. An explanation was appropriate since you keep trying to misinterpret my words as something other than their plain meaning.
 
You use all sorts of tactics in your efforts to enforce your own views on other people. Picking one word that I used in context of explaining something I wrote in the past does not mean the word has to be about you. I wrote to explain to people reading along what actually happened back then. An explanation was appropriate since you keep trying to misinterpret my words as something other than their plain meaning.
This is one area in which you have considerable expertise.
 
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