This makes me think of my blind roommate from years ago. Did she form images in her mind when reading or hearing a story? I never asked. She was extremely capable, she even toured France by herself. She claimed to know what colors were, but she was usually wrong. 
But mental images? - I don't know. Do deaf people hear a voice in their heads when they think? One would suppose not.
But mental images? - I don't know. Do deaf people hear a voice in their heads when they think? One would suppose not.Why not? This is experientially borne regardless. We associate what we've experienced when grasping/comprehending an explanation, no? Only she knows what those images may comprise but the same holds true for us all. It's a question that needs to be asked.
The last part of this sentence intrigues me a lot. So if I understand you correctly you can't let music play in your head.
I assume that if you hear a certain song that you did hear before, than it doesn't sound new to you. I also assume that you can 'predict' what is coming next in the song (and maybe can sing and/or play along with the song?). If all this is true, than I would think that you must have the sounds of the song in your memory. The only difference would than be that you remember them without being consciously aware of that.
There is a plus side of not being able to hear music in your head. Sometimes a song can stick for days in my head (not 100% of the time but it keeps popping up) and it's not always a song that I like.
Never mind!
Sorry, I focused on the title of the post (3D) and I missed that mtidge problem. My apologies to him, now I understand his allusion to the stereo in my living room.....I do what I can with my English and the translator.
Communication is basically a difficult task and even more so in a foreign language (despite the impressive progress in tools like deepl) and sometimes we struggle to get the gist of a post.
Therefore I mentioned the trinaural approach, which is only a three channel approach to stabilize the mid-center position; a more sophisticated implementation would raise the number of frontal speakers/channels and route the correct positional information to the according channel/speaker.
Someone - wasn't it rdf? - already mentioned it, if the the real event consists of real acoustical sound sources, no problem in localization arises, not to mention that the visual impression helps.
@PFL200 ,
Yes, when I hear a song I recognize it, I know the words and can sing along with it. When I remember music it will be purely concepts, no sounds. So I agree that all the memories are there, but I have no audio playback system. Another interesting thing is that most times I quote a verse of music or a line from a movie it will paraphrased and not a direct quote. It is like running language through an online translator.
Yes, when I hear a song I recognize it, I know the words and can sing along with it. When I remember music it will be purely concepts, no sounds. So I agree that all the memories are there, but I have no audio playback system. Another interesting thing is that most times I quote a verse of music or a line from a movie it will paraphrased and not a direct quote. It is like running language through an online translator.
I have noticed that some live recordings have a sense of depth, but it is really down to volume. A person in the audience coughing sounds further away because it is a lot quieter than the performer. It always sounds like the audience is behind the performer though, which is weird when you think about it
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Usually, yes. But a different perspective would be difficult to do with stereo.
And it's not just volume level. Depth cues also come from reverberation and frequency response. Just like in real life.
...and artefacts introduced by the kind of (mic) couple used for recording.
Blumlein's are fun about this their directivity inducing a 'reverse' stereo for source located at their 'rear' side: it is interesting to record someone running in circle around the couple.
When the individual reach front left side ( starting moving from front right) of couple you hear it traveling from right to left once he is on backside...
It was probably already asked but how do you react to precedence ( Haas) effect mtidge?
@krivium
It seems I don't react quite like Haas described, the sound is anchored to the first source, I can't be sure if a delayed sound 15db louder than the first sound would move the sound to the second source, with such short delays used in recording I will guess that it would stay anchored to the first source.
It seems I don't react quite like Haas described, the sound is anchored to the first source, I can't be sure if a delayed sound 15db louder than the first sound would move the sound to the second source, with such short delays used in recording I will guess that it would stay anchored to the first source.
So can you not have a tune in your head and "whistle while you work"? Or hum a tune while walking?
@Disco-Pete
No I can't, I would have to sing it out loud. I don't do that because I can't sing. I could hum while walking, just not inside my head. I have no rhythm, can't dance and can't sing, but I doubt that is related to my condition.
No I can't, I would have to sing it out loud. I don't do that because I can't sing. I could hum while walking, just not inside my head. I have no rhythm, can't dance and can't sing, but I doubt that is related to my condition.
But humming while walking requires the tune to "be" in your head. So you are able to have it in your memory, no? What you physically do with your vocal chords/mouth is an extension/product of what's in your head.
I think.
Ok. Could you try to listen to this track and tell us your experience?
It is interesting as no natural sound source are used, there is a strong center panned kick ( as reference) and it rely heavily on Haas effect ( and there is phase shift related to frequency shift).
It is the only track i know of i have a feel of 3d ( i feel 'elevation' axis on some filters openings merged with really fast delay, it doesn't display this much 'depth' of auditory scene though - which isn't a surprise as it is synthetic- but a lot of movement within the width).
I've heard it played on different systems and the effect of elevation was more or less present but still within the recording.
Hmm , I wonder . . . . . When you say "I have a 5.1 system and I can locate sounds to the sides, but those too seem to be coming from the speakers and not the space in between." I don't think I buy it as a fault. Sounds to me like yours is the more accurate (less affected by concept) hearing.
@Hearinspace,
I don't see my aphantasia as a fault, but it would be nice to get an immersive experience. However it also nice to accept things as they are and stop chasing something I will never catch.
I don't see my aphantasia as a fault, but it would be nice to get an immersive experience. However it also nice to accept things as they are and stop chasing something I will never catch.
And yet for us, your perception might shine a light on how and why we do hear the phantom images. I've only ever known one person how didn't hear it, and he didn't explain it the way you did. In a similar way it's fun to talk to an engineer who about the effects of LSD. Engineers usually describe it in technical terms, not mystical.