Virtual Ground Circuit: Which OpAmp to Choose?

What's wrong with a couple thousand microFarads?
PCB board space! Not an issue in most DIY builds, sure. But this chip is designed to be crammed onto tiny PCBs stuffed with tiny parts. It eliminates two resistors, one cap, and one op-amp section, provides a precise Vcc/2 reference voltage, and gives you a virtual ground with a very low impedance (< 8 milli ohms).

Agree 100% about the pair of big caps for DIY use - unless board space is critically tight.

I recently found a family of 1W and 2W dual-rail, switch-mode, DC-to-DC converters at Digikey that are also very interesting - you feed them DC, they spit out symmetrical + and - DC rails to power op-amps from. No need for an artificial ground at Vcc/2.

-Gnobuddy
 
Last summer I modified my XQ-50 Pro 2 bluetooth DAC. It has a single 5V supply. Swapped in an OPA1612 and another dual op-amp used as a virtual ground (non-inverting buffer biased to 1/2 VCC, one op-amp per channel). I can't remember what op-amp I used for the virtual ground... sustained a serious concussion not too long after while camping.

I don't have any equipment to make measurements, but it worked and didn't add any audible noise, which is a win as far as I'm concerned. Can't be any worse than the X7R caps that the virtual ground replaced.

The Kapton tape mess is the 15x 1uF ECPU caps in parallel per output of the ES9018K2M and then another 10x per output of the OPA1612.
 

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Sounds very interesting! Would you mind giving us a reference?
Sorry, been busy all day!

The ones I found were made by Traco Power. Here is one example. Six bucks Canadian, accepts 12 Vdc input, spits out plus/minus 15 volts DC at up to 2 watts: https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/traco-power/TBA-2-1223/9698342

There are other members in the family that will spit out +/- 15V from a 5V DC input (think surplus USB charger). And still others that spit out +/- 12 volts instead of +/- 15 volts. And others that are limited to 1 watt output power, or go up to 3 watts.

These are switching regulators, with switching frequency in the range of 70 kHz to 150 kHz, so some care will have to be taken in layout and shielding to make sure you don't have 70 kHz noise added to the op-amp audio output.

I have been looking for something like these for a long time. Until recently, I couldn't find it, except at much higher prices.

-Gnobuddy
 
I used some 3W 5V to +/-15V DC to DC converters and hand wound common mode chokes to clean up the output - DC was pretty clean but the converter radiated 70kHz all over the inside of the enclosure - lots of shielding helped but did not eliminate the problem. Were it me I would use linear +/-15V regulators and a small transformer.

Look for Elvee's denoizator circuit here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-retrofit-upgrade-any-317-based-v-reg.331491/

Also see http://www.wenzel.com/documents/finesse.html

Works well with the LM337 as well.

If you are build a DAC and pushing the limits of what you can accomplish why start with a big compromise? 😀
 
I used some 3W 5V to +/-15V DC to DC converters and hand wound common mode chokes to clean up the output - DC was pretty clean but the converter radiated 70kHz all over the inside of the enclosure - lots of shielding helped but did not eliminate the problem. Were it me I would use linear +/-15V regulators and a small transformer.

Look for Elvee's denoizator circuit here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-retrofit-upgrade-any-317-based-v-reg.331491/

Also see http://www.wenzel.com/documents/finesse.html

Works well with the LM337 as well.

If you are build a DAC and pushing the limits of what you can accomplish why start with a big compromise? 😀
Didn't know this one 😎
 
I really hate debugging these circuits... 🤢 But it helps if you solder the transistors with the correct orientation... 😱
Nevertheless, this circuit works quite well using the OP77. Will do measurements later.
But, as expected, you may need good heatsinks 😉
 

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