RIAA or Not

[Mosquito]

Hi there, I heard in some italian audiophile circles that some european labels are cutting their masters with curves other than the RIAA standard, I'm not talking ancient records but modern production. Hence, they say, preamps without various de emphasis eq, other than the RIAA standard, are useless. I don't believe this for a second, moreover that this fact is not clearly adviced in the product they are selling. What do You think?

 

[vinylkid58]

I think it's nonsense. Where's the evidence?

jeff

 

[tvrgeek]

Kind of open to inappropriate ethnic jokes now isn't it?
Could some company sell the preamp that is required with their records and be claiming they have the greatest whatever ever? As one can buy $124,000 headphones, I would not be that surprised.

 

[vinylkid58]

We probably shouldn't go there.

Maybe the Electric Recording Company is going to change the eq curves for their next run of overpriced reissues.

jeff

 

[tvrgeek]

We probably shouldn't go there.

Maybe the Electric Recording Company is going to change the eq curves for their next run of overpriced reissues.

jeff

Why, did Sony buy them out so they can screw something up by pricing it out of the market?

 

[picowallspeaker]

'word of mouth' is what you have experienced
Or perhaps it's the 'social'...
Or...some phono pre that needs to be promoted amongst the zombie circles errr..audiophiles.
Well... The A in RIAA is for America, sure we gotta oppose some force to the dominion, or is Artists? Surely the JPEG made enormous detriment to the visual world, and the Experts might have made some mistakes. I don't believe them, conspiracy's rising, Bluetooth is the New Age

 

[Mosquito]

I think it's nonsense. Where's the evidence?

jeff

Same here.

 

[waltube]

Hi there, I heard in some italian audiophile circles that some european labels are cutting their masters with curves other than the RIAA standard, I'm not talking ancient records but modern production. Hence, they say, preamps without various de emphasis eq, other than the RIAA standard, are useless. I don't believe this for a second, moreover that this fact is not clearly adviced in the product they are selling. What do You think?

Hi

please let me know the circles of my italian collegues

The noise around Hifi is always loud.

Walter

 

[Mosquito]

Hi

please let me know the circles of my italian collegues

The noise around Hifi is always loud.

Walter

You can imagine where in Facebook, I don't want to tell names, that is "sputtanare" There is the risk Peacemaker will take care of them

 

[Boydk]

Well..... wouldn´t be surprised either.
They´ve already pressed the first MQA vinyls

 

[lauda]

I wonder if the genesis of this is confusion about the IEC Amendment. Specifically:

In 1976, an alternative version of the replay curve (but not the recording curve) was proposed by the International Electrotechnical Commission, differing from the RIAA replay curve only in the addition of a pole at 7950 μs (approximately 20 Hz).[13]
...
Some manufacturers follow the IEC standard, others do not, while the remainder make this IEC-RIAA option user selectable. It remains subject to debate some 35 years later.[2] This IEC Amendment was withdrawn in June 2009, though.

It's also possible that someone misinterpreted what a mastering engineer said when they talked about equalizing recordings so they can be cut and/or for better presentation after the non-linear colorations introduced by the entire cut-to-playback process.

 

[waltube]

https://www.goldnote.it/phono-stages/ph-1000/
this is interesting

I am playing around this problem of curves.

If yu search:

EQ CURVES PARAMETER SETUP - Gold Note​

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct..._EQ_Card.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3guxCBFbiZdZf239leur2l
you will get better details


Walter

 

[picowallspeaker]

Ok, we know now that Mosquito and Waltube are two FBI insiders

 

[Mosquito]

What I think is that they are playing with eq curves in a similar way we normal people play with tone controls (that they profoundly hate), when a particular record do not suit our taste as how it sound.

 

[waltube]

to picowall:
I am from Spectre, much better

to Mosquito:
before you send the comments, take appropriate info.

Walter

 

[Mosquito]

to Mosquito:
before you send the comments, take appropriate info.

Walter

...?

 

[Davor D]

I have some Black Sabbath reissues by Abraxsas records from Italy. Also few originals in excellent condition by Nems. I hear no difference in tonal balance, both sounds bit dark which goes well with my fullrange speakers.

 

[Mosquito]

I hear no difference in tonal balance, both sounds bit dark which goes well with my fullrange speakers.

But of course it is so. some claims mentioned in post #1 have zero serious evidence.
As for certain individuals that show an excess of keyboard aggresivity, perhaps a glass or two of a good Barolo -to soften their mood before they wrote- can be strongly advisable.

 

[waltube]

to mosquito
I repeat my consideration, please take the apporpriate info.
There is a lot to learn around eq curves and I am trying to do.
Also drinking Barolo ( and others) that helps a lot

 

[analog_sa]

some european labels are cutting their masters with curves other than the RIAA standard

EC bureaucrats may get a great new idea reading this. With bananas and cucumbers already equalised it's time to address vinyl equalisation. Perhaps a job for the equality commission?