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wirewiggler

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I moved into a new house and the living room is about 28X28X10 good size and my North creek D28 Borialis struggle to fill the room. The biggest problem is the left side of the room is open to the kitchen with a 4’ counter separating it as well as the entryway hall extending another 25’. This really messes with sound stage. I know any speaker will be a compromise but would like some advice what to build. I have a descent sub system and was thinking about a 8” full range with woofer assist. I wanted to build the pass Slob but OB probably would not work out with wife and room geometry.

thanks for any advise
Bill
 
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Can you use a different wall for the speakers so the loading is more symmetrical?
Maybe post the room layout. You'll probably need a listening position near the middle of the room.
Near field listening should be the way to go.
 
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Thanks for quick reply. I will try to draw something out. Unfortunately not able to rotate speaker position due to furniture TV and room layout. Funny thing I put a set of Frugel-Horns in my office they sound great in the small room. I had to put a barn door to close off room, however it does not seal off room due to gap between door and wall. I will have to work on some sort of seals to prevent sound from leaking out. I do really like the sound of the full range speaker driven with one of my F4 amps with the ASKA Lender preamp.
Bill
 
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Here is some pictures
 

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Nice looking DIY speakers. The above speaker placement looks compromised in the new room. They may be too close together, too close to the the rear wall and the right speaker is going to have early reflections off the side wall with marked asymmetry to the left speaker.

Maybe try different speaker placements first - quick and easy
1. toe-in the speakers to aim at the center of the listening position
2. then over toe them so they aim 10degrees crossing past the center
3. then spread them further apart and move everything to the left away from the side wall

Then
4. with the sub try a higher cross over and boost levels to pressure the new space
5. measure and use digital room correction
 
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Have tried toe-in tighter sweet spot but better, pluged port speaker and crossed at 120hz over 80hz improved bass and using MiniDSP with room correction made it tolerable. I have to crank it up a bit to get any kind of balanced sound but no sound stage.
 
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Perhaps highly directional speakers and some treatments could give you something more to your taste. I can’t recommend a specific speaker as this is outside my experience, but this looks novel….
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/fieldcoil-k-tube.363723/page-4#post-6779748

I have found myself preferring single speaker mono for listening in spaces that have their priority use for the family. And the basement is more suited when giving priority to the hobby.
 
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wirewiggler said:
Here is some pictures
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That does look tricky, but there are some options.

I would try to put left speaker much further to the left, even further than the door next left to the xmass tree is. Keep the right speaker where it is, just reposition sofa to form the triangle with speakers.

Place sub in the far right corner, get your cables hidden to the left speaker, and you may be fine with what you have.
 
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