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Einstein pointed out that gravity and acceleration are interchangeable, so presumably anti gravity has uses outside of static mass generated gravity?
what am I doing feeding this nonsense!?
@ Scott Wurcer,
I think you know exactly why some things are being said by me. I will shut up if you discontinue using terms like "zealot" and trying to suggest to people that my arguments come from the Mormon faith, which I have no knowledge or connection with. Talk about pejorative arguments and the pot calling the kettle black. If you discontinue arguing in that vein then I will also.
I think you know exactly why some things are being said by me. I will shut up if you discontinue using terms like "zealot" and trying to suggest to people that my arguments come from the Mormon faith, which I have no knowledge or connection with. Talk about pejorative arguments and the pot calling the kettle black. If you discontinue arguing in that vein then I will also.
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No problem, though I have no idea what so ever why you say what you say. What does bother me is your second point. You can go back and look for yourself, there were only three posts involved between me and Brinkman concerning Jacques Vallée and his belief that religious apparitions are possibly visitations by inter-dimensional beings. Vallée pointed out three events saying that in those times aliens were not on anyone's mind and I corrected that for one case. I made it very clear I do not comment here in a negative way on anyone's religious beliefs and you were not even remotely mentioned.
Yes, he was quick to point out that from the waist down there was no age related distinction among women up to 40 yrs. old. Apparently he loved playing doctor. 🙂
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Sounds virtually the same in most european languages...it must be about the effect of hyperventilation on humain perception during millitary trainings : oxy- moron...
When i saw this topic first i was almost sure it will get past 100 pages of pure , unaltered high quality Intelligence Void very soon, yet i feel the urge to make it happen sooner.
If aliens would be here now it would be a very great chance that we are the aliens. As a trully intelligent species we are less than 100 000 years old while the known universe is 12 billion years.Why would the aliens intelligence appear at the same time with us and not 4 billion years before us, being already able to come here and use all the planet's resources up until 3.999 billion years ago?
Some time ago a guy said on FB that Elon Musk will move like a million people to Mars in the course of our lives...I said that would be an awful waste of resources as with the same kind of money we could plant the entire African continent, yet for the sake of science progress, the last physics theories suggests that it would be much cheapper to send a conscience through a worm hole in another universe, unless that already happens automatically every time one of us dies...
On the simple hand , there's strong evidence that our physical bodies will be way too far away of our physical aliens buddies to ever meet while the universe expansion is so damn fast and faster that no science progress will keep up pace on either side of the universe...
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10 *scientific* explanations for at least hundreds (if not thousands) of "UFO sightings".
10 Optical Illusions that Will Blow Your Mind - YouTube
That´s why even if a Million "witnesses" swear on a pile of Bibles-Qurans-C++ developer manuals - whatever I can´t intrinsically trust them.
Won´t even bother to call them "liars", they may very well be honest and believe in what they "saw", simply that´s not solid enough.
Only PROOF is, as mentioned above, is to have a dissectable Alien on a table (much better a live one), or significant pieces of an UFO, again much better a working one, or at least a complete (if crashed) one, etc.
Hysterically screaming "you can´t prove me wrong!!!!!!" cuts as much as a whipped cream knife.
The one making the extraorinary claims bears the burden of the proof, not me.
So far no UFO Believer in this thread (or outside) has offered the least PROOF, so .............
10 Optical Illusions that Will Blow Your Mind - YouTube
That´s why even if a Million "witnesses" swear on a pile of Bibles-Qurans-C++ developer manuals - whatever I can´t intrinsically trust them.
Won´t even bother to call them "liars", they may very well be honest and believe in what they "saw", simply that´s not solid enough.
Only PROOF is, as mentioned above, is to have a dissectable Alien on a table (much better a live one), or significant pieces of an UFO, again much better a working one, or at least a complete (if crashed) one, etc.
Hysterically screaming "you can´t prove me wrong!!!!!!" cuts as much as a whipped cream knife.
The one making the extraorinary claims bears the burden of the proof, not me.
So far no UFO Believer in this thread (or outside) has offered the least PROOF, so .............
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Please refer to link in my post above, I'm interested in your opinion.
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Jacques Vallée and Garry Nolan. Jacques Vallee has been in the UFO field for decades.
What do we Know about the Material Composition of UFOs?
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JV was no ufo scientist, his ufo work was always separate from his professional positions.
I found this on wikipedia, kind of sums it up doesn’t it
“Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena.” 🙄
I found this on wikipedia, kind of sums it up doesn’t it
“Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena.” 🙄
sometimes I feel like the guy in this ads because the language, I'm uglier though : Babbel: An Alien Abroad - Full Length (120s) (2018) - YouTube
(yes we exist!)
(yes we exist!)
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Not sure what a “ufo scientist” is exactly. Last time I checked, anyone employing the scientific method in an investigative manner could rightfully call themselves a scientist, regardless of whether they are being paid for such work or not.
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that maybe but it’s outside the context of my original post that this derives from.
This JV guy seems to have limited understanding of physics as nowadays we see more clearly that inter dimensional beings are not practical because these other dimensions are too small, being at the quantum level, otherwise gravity (for example) would not exhibit 1/r^2 behaviour so it’s all codswallop like the rest of it.
This JV guy seems to have limited understanding of physics as nowadays we see more clearly that inter dimensional beings are not practical because these other dimensions are too small, being at the quantum level, otherwise gravity (for example) would not exhibit 1/r^2 behaviour so it’s all codswallop like the rest of it.
The inter dimensional hypothesis is just one of many hypotheses and in regards to the work Vallee and Nolan are conducting it is getting ahead of ourselves.
I think until there is full disclosure we'll continue to be ahead of ourselves. It presently seems to be a topic whose interpretation is completely subject to a person's prior orientation. My hopes come from my investigation of the nature of quantum entanglement for almost 20 years. Some people are trying to say that space is inherently non-local. I don't go that far. I think that's the wrong way to think because it would then be obvious to all of us all the time.
However I DO think there are experiments that can be done in the future which will prove that in special cases macroscopic objects, and not just infinitesimal quantum particles, can be influenced to interact in a non-local way. If entanglement is not just a usual condition of spacetime but is instead a special condition arising from the way in which particles and object are accelerated away from each other, well, that would be huge.
My own belief, and yes it is a belief and not a fact or yet even a theory, is that energy needs to be diverted from the normal accumulation of energy during acceleration in that entanglement process. If it could be shown that the energy would actually be less than the accelerated object is predicted to have according to GR, it would show that some of the diverted energy is used to create that entanglement.
Big "if". But I think experiments could be done to test it. For example colliding one of those objects into another object and using an array of sensors to measure the energy expended. If the process involved a disproportionate level of entanglement to the origin of the acceleration then it should show up as less energy expended in that collision with the object.
At any rate it would be very interesting and if it didn't prove successful it would eliminate that as a possibility of inertial mass reduction. Experimenting and using the process of elimination is certainly part of the scientific method. I haven't read anywhere that people are trying it. And answering all the potential critics - no it doesn't mean trying it would not work because otherwise people would have already done it. For those who follow Elon, people should know that not everything has been tried before and some of those things are eventually successful.
However I DO think there are experiments that can be done in the future which will prove that in special cases macroscopic objects, and not just infinitesimal quantum particles, can be influenced to interact in a non-local way. If entanglement is not just a usual condition of spacetime but is instead a special condition arising from the way in which particles and object are accelerated away from each other, well, that would be huge.
My own belief, and yes it is a belief and not a fact or yet even a theory, is that energy needs to be diverted from the normal accumulation of energy during acceleration in that entanglement process. If it could be shown that the energy would actually be less than the accelerated object is predicted to have according to GR, it would show that some of the diverted energy is used to create that entanglement.
Big "if". But I think experiments could be done to test it. For example colliding one of those objects into another object and using an array of sensors to measure the energy expended. If the process involved a disproportionate level of entanglement to the origin of the acceleration then it should show up as less energy expended in that collision with the object.
At any rate it would be very interesting and if it didn't prove successful it would eliminate that as a possibility of inertial mass reduction. Experimenting and using the process of elimination is certainly part of the scientific method. I haven't read anywhere that people are trying it. And answering all the potential critics - no it doesn't mean trying it would not work because otherwise people would have already done it. For those who follow Elon, people should know that not everything has been tried before and some of those things are eventually successful.
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One of the rumored reasons for (some) form of disclosure coming about is in regards to perception management interests due to an increased number of privately funded efforts towards space exploration. The expectation is that these efforts will continue to grow and an ounce of disclosure is better than a pound of cure. Things like SkyHub also come to mind, though anything anomalous gathered through SkyHub could be explained as classified craft.
Easy, any and all you made since NONE contains physical proof, not even clear pictures of UFOS, Aliens, etc.
For example, this object was flying over USA, Japan, and many other places during the 40´s, here are clean, sharp, well illuminated pictures which make its existance credible or plausible.
Need more data, tests, measurements, etc. to improve knowledge, but not bad at all as a *starter*.
Was clearly seen by thousands of people, there are thousands of good pictures, many straight fron the 40´s so "oh, way back then they had no Technology for good images" is BS.
WW2 picture:
This one is (gasp!!!) in colour!!!!! Go figure.
any similar quality UFO pictures?
REALLY this is the best UFO people can show?
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
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US Armed Forces and Intelligence Agencies have cameras which can show golf balls in Moscow, St Petersburg or Beijing, this is a FORTY years old picture, on B/W film, taken from 200kM high, travelling at 20000kM/h :
and THISis the best they can show today? from an object within,say, 3 to 20 miles ahead?
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
A >>1944<< German fighter gun camera.
Again, 1944 !!!!!!!!
No quote of claims? Looks like you made a claim about the claims but unable to back it up.
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