US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"

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Why the Pentagon UFO report is deeply troubling for US security experts | US national security | The Guardian

Thomas Bania, professor of astronomy at Boston University, said: “Without the range, then one simply cannot tell speed, acceleration, etc. So the interpretation of speeds and turns (ie accelerations) that our US technology cannot match is just bogus. No need for invoking a foreign power with superior – much superior – technology.”

“Were it me running their electronic warfare show, I would build small drones and stuff them with electronics that would monitor and record everything our military radars would send at them,” Bania said. “Then I would get busy reverse engineering what our weaponry did. Then I would develop protocols to spoof radar locks back at us giving ranges that would imply these ridiculous motions.”

I’m not sure I believe this statement in the press but an interesting idea not yet mentioned
 
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Even now, multiple sources told CNN, the government almost certainly wouldn’t have moved to produce the report without public pressure from key lawmakers, as both Republicans and Democrats have taken an interest in the matter.

While former senior defense officials with knowledge of the most recent iteration of the department’s investigations say the Pentagon took it seriously, some pilots and former officials tasked with investigating the matter say senior Pentagon leaders downplayed or ignored the threat.
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A lot of these guys getting paid but not putting in their share of works. After all these years, given what we still don't know, it just shows these guys are just not giving a $#!.
 
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Another option is that a foreign power had developed unmanned aircraft that could spoof US radar and instruments into seeing the incredible speeds and changes of direction that have been reported.
“Were it me running their electronic warfare show, I would build small drones and stuff them with electronics that would monitor and record everything our military radars would send at them,” Bania said. “Then I would get busy reverse engineering what our weaponry did. Then I would develop protocols to spoof radar locks back at us giving ranges that would imply these ridiculous motions.”
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This is a possible explanation but that does not explain the eye witness accounts of pilots who have seen these flying object in close range. And these sightings have been confirmed with multiple detection platforms so it's hard to fool multiple radar system simultaneously. Besides, we would know if our radar was fooled by electronic interference. And if let's say this is the case that our radar gets spoofed, there would be a pattern that it can easily be identified (that is if they are competent enough ... ahem ...) I mean the Naval radar operator may gets spoofed a few times, but it's hard to believe the Chinese and Russians can fool the US Navy all the time.
 
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“China has well-documented issues with basic jet engines, they rely on espionage to develop their most advanced weapons systems. So, I struggle with China having developed this,” Von Rennenkampff said. “Russia has a defense budget that is a fraction of the United States, and much of its military infrastructure is crumbling so I struggle with that too.”

“So if it is China or Russia, then that’s extraordinary,” he added. “I don’t know how they did it, and it would be a monumental failure of intelligence collection on the part of the United States, orders of magnitude worse than 9/11.”
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I would find in implausible as well that it would come from either the Chinese or the Russians. They may be able to find a way to spoof our radar, but not the technology to build such flying crafts.
 
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badman said:
The military has done things to enhance performance for a long time, and who knows how their respiration (higher 02 than normal perhaps?) and altitude interact for military-style pilots, in addition to or in combination with those other elements. Some frequency of hallucination or dissociative states (seeing the controls differently than as controls, for ex) may be part of that package.
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It's more rational than invaders ! If the UFO are not human drones or if what pilot are seing is not seen by radars, the more logical explain will be more :


desinformation war ! If the pilot are not retired and sinceer then it certainly the price of O2 bottles have rised too much due to cv-19 needs than army save money here 😀 !


Or army is trying drugs on their pilots or experiment drone to study their reflex or involvement if such objects were used in air battles or just to test the drones which is the futur due to the high price of a military pilot in case of major conflict. Electronic war : bits objects sent on their head screen and plane information systeme (so internal country tests with non briefed pilots) ??



I beleive more about desinformation war, and fear is good to control people and push them to end of the world consumering. Would like to know how is reacting stock exchange after such news on several weeks 🙄


Anyway I beleive inb all but little men from Mars. The worse extraterristrials are often your own neighbors just because they are different... so you need (to buy) a gun or more coca, go figure !
 
#609
andy2 said:
A nice and funny summary of the report. Basically the DoD fked up since I am getting of a sense that they truely don't know for sure. I want my hard earned tax dollars back.

The Pentagon UFO report explained - YouTube
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The report is what I had expected. Obfuscation. There's nothing indicated in the executive summary which indicates the full report reveals anything that wasn't known before the new disclosure law was enacted. Essentially, 2021's version of swamp-gas and Venus, type de-bunking suggestions. Including balloons, ala' Roswell.

Although, we don't know what the full report says, the fact that the Pentagon apparently thinks it can ignore it's own gun camera video, which THEY have authenticated, along with multiple flight officer eyewitness reports of those video incidents, shouldn't surprise me, yet it does. The Pentagon's own reported encounters are the primary reason for the law.
 
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That's the first step isn’t it, if you don’t like the report then the authors must be hiding something - classic response when something doesn’t support beliefs…

Well, there never was any evidence of craft, aliens etc. The government is hardly going to go on record claiming anything with such a lack of hard evidence or they’d lose as much credibility as all those still claiming evidence of such things and some saying we’ve had visitors…
 
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The Report pretty much says we're alone, so why keep sawing the branch we're sitting on, meaning take better care of the world.
I'm not convinced until I get hard irrefutable proof
 

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Bigun said:
That's the first step isn’t it, if you don’t like the report then the authors must be hiding something - classic response when something doesn’t support beliefs…[Yawn] The fish aren't biting at that stale bait, try something fresh for a change.

Well, there never was any evidence of craft, aliens etc. The government is hardly going to go on record claiming anything with such a lack of hard evidence or they’d lose as much credibility as all those still claiming evidence of such things and some saying we’ve had visitors…
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Inferring what you wish it said, rather than what it does say. I'm not surprised that you would make such an convenient oversight, unfortunately.

As far as hard evidence, the Pentagon IS responsible for re-kindling the whole subject, by going on the record to authenticate the initially leaked videos. They didn't have to do that. They could have remained silent, so why didn't they? Why stir up alien controversy, and then pour cold water on it later? Most likely, there is strong disagreement within the government on how to handle the issue. So much so, that it Culminated in Congress and the President passing a law to get information being withheld by the Pentagon and Intelligence agencies. They would not take such an eye opening step without the proper motivation, and consideration of the potential consequences. The Pentagon is most responsible for today's talk of UFOs and alien visitation, they don't get to just sweep it under a rug now without full explanation.

By the way, you need not waste time responding, as I feel quite certain that your irrationally closed thinking would not allow you to make a rational argument anyhow. Let's leave it at that.
 
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scott wurcer said:
The boxes of "debris" contained pieces of wood highly unlikely to be not of this earth. I was not a weather balloon but probably part of project MOGUL which at the time was top secret
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Think about what they have said since 1947;

First it was, we've recovered a crashed flying saucer. What?!

The next day it was, our bad, it was only a weather ballon. Again, what?!
You see, as Air Force officers, we couldn't be expected to tell the difference between a balloon and a flying saucer. Never mind that the Pentagon has stationed us at the nation's only active bomber base stockpiling atomic bombs at that time, we are easily confused.

Now, it's yet something else to hang one's hat on, Project Mogul. Once more, what?!
A project which was inexplicable deemed so top secret, that hiding it was preferable to simply letting everyone continue to suspect for many years after the end of the Cold War, mind you, that we maybe recovered a flying saucer back in 1947.

Does any of that sound even remotely rational or truthful?
 
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