US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"

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Bonsai said:
No, I read papers by academics that consider this issue very, very carefully. I am not a scientist, but the argumentation they put forward is well considered and as I said before, its all very well saying there are billions of planets out there, but no one talks about the biological hurdles and once you factor that in, the balance in favour of a Milky Way (or any other galaxy) teeming with advanced civilizations looks decidedly unlikely.

Nevertheless, if you have science papers you can link to that support the opposite view, I'd love to see them.
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Let's do this, you provide a link to any paper/article which you refer, so that we may read the sort of arguments and assumptions put forth there to begin.
 
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Bonsai said:
I’d have thought you would have directed that type of proposal to the folks claiming an impending alien invasion.
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Folks speculating an impending alien invasion or encounter are basing it on what they consider evidences already exist. Your brought up the technology we will soon have for gathering the evidence "telltale signature of oxygen on many of these exoplanets indicating the presence of large scale biological processes" but doesn't exist yet.
 
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Evenharmonics said:
Folks speculating an impending alien invasion or encounter are basing it on what they consider evidences already exist. Your brought up the technology we will soon have for gathering the evidence "telltale signature of oxygen on many of these exoplanets indicating the presence of large scale biological processes" but doesn't exist yet.
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Before concluding that advanced alien civilizations are visiting us shouldn’t we wait until we have decisive proof? Or should we conclude that, based on the scientific evidence we have, that it is indeed exceedingly rare?
 
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You’re trying to squirm out of it.

Do I believe fuzzy videos constitute proof of alien visitation, or do I conclude, based on the weight of scientific evidence and calculated probabilities, that advanced alien civilizations are extremely rare or do not exist in the Milky Way?
 
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“We don’t know if it’s extraterrestrial. We don’t know if it’s an enemy. We don’t know if it’s an optical phenomenon,” Nelson said. “We don’t think [it’s an optical phenomenon] because of the characteristics that those Navy jet pilots described … And so the bottom line is, we want to know.”
 
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Bonsai said:
You’re trying to squirm out of it.
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Out of what?

Do I believe fuzzy videos constitute proof of alien visitation, or do I conclude, based on the weight of scientific evidence and calculated probabilities, that advanced alien civilizations are extremely rare or do not exist in the Milky Way?
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I'll mention the word once again, speculate is another option missing from your reply, at least until that technology you mentioned is put into work.
 
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