I am running a 4 core 8 thread computer with a Hypervisor and several VMs which (as I understand it) are isolated in such a manner that there can be no communication between them. Everything is isolated and controlled by the Hypervisor. Infiltration and compromise of one VM can not propagate to the rest of the system. Wireless and wired networks are separated. No device can enter the network without being in the MAC address table. In addition, the wireless router has had it's power throttled back so one can not receive it (without special equipment) much outside my house and it is 100yards to the nearest apartment or house.
My son set it up and did all the programming to develop the system in Linux. He was bored on summer between classes at the local university and decided to be creative.
I don't understand all the details.
However, when he was about 13 years old, the FBI came to visit him. I suspect he is capable of very much more if it weren't for his honest bent.
My son set it up and did all the programming to develop the system in Linux. He was bored on summer between classes at the local university and decided to be creative.
I don't understand all the details.
However, when he was about 13 years old, the FBI came to visit him. I suspect he is capable of very much more if it weren't for his honest bent.
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A few years ago I bought a cheap phone on Amazon. Once or twice a month we drive over to Pittsburgh for food shopping. Every time we drove by the Mercedes Benz dealership I would get a pop-up ad on my phone. Amazon might know where I am, and what I buy (one of our stops is Whole Foods), but they obviously don't know my preferences in automobiles lie at the opposite end of the price spectrum from Mercedes. They are also quite confused about my tastes in books, music, clothes and a few other things since I buy stuff for 9 people aged 7 to 84. The variety ranges from electronic components to toys.
Early this year I got an iPhone. I guess Apple knows better than trying to sell me a Mercedes.
Early this year I got an iPhone. I guess Apple knows better than trying to sell me a Mercedes.
Wow, that´s amazing!!Every time we drove by the Mercedes Benz dealership I would get a pop-up ad on my phone.
So besides the usual data mining they also follow you around, all 0ver the place, in real time!!!!
That´s worrying, the misguided car brand suggestion being just a very minor flaw.
Or not SUCH a flaw, there are more people out there buying Mercedes than real Millionaires, or rich people.
Remember we live on overextended credit, so I bet they sell quite a few units to people who can´t really afford them.
Sales are sales, the dealer gets his money, whether you pay or not becomes Bank/Finance company problem.
See my theory above.🙂Amazon might know where I am, and what I buy (one of our stops is Whole Foods), but they obviously don't know my preferences in automobiles lie at the opposite end of the price spectrum from Mercedes.
I bet they already figured out by the very diversity that you live with a respectably sized Family ... which is another special niche by itself.They are also quite confused about my tastes in books, music, clothes and a few other things since I buy stuff for 9 people aged 7 to 84. The variety ranges from electronic components to toys.
I bet you will not get exotic Amazon Jungle Expedition offerings but a few "Family approved" suggestions instead 😎
Oh, definitely, they don´t want competition!!! 😱Early this year I got an iPhone. I guess Apple knows better than trying to sell me a Mercedes.
They want you to spend all your money on expensive Apple stuff instead. 😎
I'm not that holy, I dip my toes in sin regularly. 😛 Unfortunately FB is mostly boring, but it does allow me to keep up with friends scattered across the world. For that I find it very useful.I wouldn't touch Face**** with the proverbial, so that's solved 🙂
Let us not forget - adverts are a major source of income for diyAudio and help keep the lights on. Think about that when you block ads here.
Wow, that´s amazing!!
So besides the usual data mining they also follow you around, all 0ver the place, in real time!!!!
Amazon gives a $50 discount off the already cheap phone if you allow their targeted ads. They do not divulge how their targeting algorithm works, but it does know your location, that became obvious shortly after I got the phone.
Remember we live on overextended credit, so I bet they sell quite a few units to people who can´t really afford them.
I guess that's where I went wrong in life, I always paid my bills and didn't buy anything I couldn't afford. With a few exceptions none of my vehicle purchases over 50+ years of driving were on credit. I did have to finance my first house. The Florida real estate market went crazy enough that I sold that dump for enough to pay cash for my retirement home away from the big city madness.
I bet they already figured out by the very diversity that you live with a respectably sized Family ... which is another special niche by itself.
I bet you will not get exotic Amazon Jungle Expedition offerings but a few "Family approved" suggestions instead 😎
I think I have their algorithm so confused that it just throws out random guesses and most of them are pretty far off base. The best guesses are related to electronic components or tools. Books, music and clothing, forget it.
Oh, definitely, they don´t want competition!!! 😱
They want you to spend all your money on expensive Apple stuff instead. 😎
I only got the iPhone because it was a discontinued model for about half the original price. Both of my cheap Amazon phones were Motorola. The division of Motorola that makes phones is now owned by Lenovo. I would have preferred a Samsung, but they are too expensive.
Android certainly knows where you are. It used to email me a summary of where I had been this month. That was so spooky-accurate that I "turned it off". Which just hides it from me, not from google.
Here is an old redacted day-in-my-life. (This is where my browser crashed before.. coincidence??)
Here is an old redacted day-in-my-life. (This is where my browser crashed before.. coincidence??)
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I just had to go run tell my wife I did not want a $999 MM phono cartridge from Amazon. I was looking to see what they had earlier on my computer and even though the browser is not logged in to an account, my browsing will make it to her at some point.
Another time I visited a site to see some expensive speaker that I though sucked somewhat. Her ads said I might want them for some reason.
Another time I visited a site to see some expensive speaker that I though sucked somewhat. Her ads said I might want them for some reason.
It's weird - my wife and I have never had ads targeted at the other's tastes, nor have I or anyone I know had the sort of drive-by advert mentioned above. Yet folk from continental America often seem to report it. Maybe it's a bit sad but it's the sort of thing we've been known to discuss after a few beers 🙂
Perhaps it's a NA only thing for the big corps?
PRR - My most amusing experience of google tracking showed a significant amount of FTL travel. If you turn on "enhanced location" it uses wifi and other info to supplement GPS. Or it seems, over-ride it. The worst case was when I walked into a hotel near Wick - close to being as far north you can get in Scotland and it immediately decided I'd moved to Cardiff - 500 miles shifted near instantaneously as it decided that's where the WiFi was!
Perhaps it's a NA only thing for the big corps?
PRR - My most amusing experience of google tracking showed a significant amount of FTL travel. If you turn on "enhanced location" it uses wifi and other info to supplement GPS. Or it seems, over-ride it. The worst case was when I walked into a hotel near Wick - close to being as far north you can get in Scotland and it immediately decided I'd moved to Cardiff - 500 miles shifted near instantaneously as it decided that's where the WiFi was!
When I used the Amazon sourced Android phone it would occasionally bring up a window asking me to rate the establishment I just walked out of. Sometimes it would get the place wrong. It could be off by one or two stores in the same parking lot.
Amazon was forced by legal action to disable that feature since it thwarted the phone's security. If you grabbed the phone to "answer" the survey, you could use the phone's other features without authentication.
I still use the phone on house WiFi (no cell service) since it's easier to use than the iPhone. It hasn't moved more than 50 feet in 6 months, so the drive by stuff has vanished.
This is a screen shot of what Microsoft shows me whenever I open their browser or open a a new page. Scattered among the fake and irrelevant news (the Air Canada incident happened almost 40 years ago) are some adverts often disguised as news.
Note that the largest image is an ad from Digikey trying to sell me a pressure sensor. I use Digikey's search engine often, in fact I used it right before I opened this browser window to look up an old TI opamp that I found cheap in a surplus store's email bomb. I have not looked up, or searched for a pressure sensor since I was tweaking turbocharged automobile engines in the early 90's. Back then I got parts similar to these as free samples since I worked for Motorola. Motorola Semiconductor became Freescale, and NXP ate Freescale.
Some of the ads try to track things that I have searched for, usually a few days behind. In this case I did look up a Freescale branded processor chip several days ago. I don't remember if I used Digikey, Mouser, or Google for the search though.
Digikey showed me a P channel mosfet a few months ago that I did not know about, and I wound up buying a few. That got them prime position on my opening screen. Mosfets do seem to be one of the more common things they show me. Maker boards and CPUs are pretty common too, but the $400 touch screen maker board that they showed be yesterday, no way. I go for the under $20 stuff.
Whoever is targeting me with the farmhouse sink, or a stock picking scheme is way off base.
Amazon was forced by legal action to disable that feature since it thwarted the phone's security. If you grabbed the phone to "answer" the survey, you could use the phone's other features without authentication.
I still use the phone on house WiFi (no cell service) since it's easier to use than the iPhone. It hasn't moved more than 50 feet in 6 months, so the drive by stuff has vanished.
This is a screen shot of what Microsoft shows me whenever I open their browser or open a a new page. Scattered among the fake and irrelevant news (the Air Canada incident happened almost 40 years ago) are some adverts often disguised as news.
Note that the largest image is an ad from Digikey trying to sell me a pressure sensor. I use Digikey's search engine often, in fact I used it right before I opened this browser window to look up an old TI opamp that I found cheap in a surplus store's email bomb. I have not looked up, or searched for a pressure sensor since I was tweaking turbocharged automobile engines in the early 90's. Back then I got parts similar to these as free samples since I worked for Motorola. Motorola Semiconductor became Freescale, and NXP ate Freescale.
Some of the ads try to track things that I have searched for, usually a few days behind. In this case I did look up a Freescale branded processor chip several days ago. I don't remember if I used Digikey, Mouser, or Google for the search though.
Digikey showed me a P channel mosfet a few months ago that I did not know about, and I wound up buying a few. That got them prime position on my opening screen. Mosfets do seem to be one of the more common things they show me. Maker boards and CPUs are pretty common too, but the $400 touch screen maker board that they showed be yesterday, no way. I go for the under $20 stuff.
Whoever is targeting me with the farmhouse sink, or a stock picking scheme is way off base.
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I've been strongly considering the Pi-Hole as internet filter for my own home. I'm at the threshold.
So_Many_Times I just want to read the text on some page and I have to sit thought these "pop-ups" that someone thought would be a good idea to arbitrarily stick in another's face, right in the middle of their reading. Half of them are from my "NoScript", asking if it should permanently block this 1000 character URL request some part of the page I'm reading is issuing. I click yes every time.
I think the Pi-Hole would save me from dealing with most, if not all, of this nonsense. While I realize that many organizations make their money via how often someone "takes the bait", for me it's got to the point where I'd just rather not participate in most of what I'd otherwise find at least somewhat interesting. Making yourself as annoying as tolerable by the general internet user population isnt working for me. I think it's every 5 minutes to watch a "free" show on youtube, when not using "adblock". You do that to people, because you've found out most are willing to tolerate it, I dont play your content at all. I'll go read a book - or browse elsewhere.
So_Many_Times I just want to read the text on some page and I have to sit thought these "pop-ups" that someone thought would be a good idea to arbitrarily stick in another's face, right in the middle of their reading. Half of them are from my "NoScript", asking if it should permanently block this 1000 character URL request some part of the page I'm reading is issuing. I click yes every time.
I think the Pi-Hole would save me from dealing with most, if not all, of this nonsense. While I realize that many organizations make their money via how often someone "takes the bait", for me it's got to the point where I'd just rather not participate in most of what I'd otherwise find at least somewhat interesting. Making yourself as annoying as tolerable by the general internet user population isnt working for me. I think it's every 5 minutes to watch a "free" show on youtube, when not using "adblock". You do that to people, because you've found out most are willing to tolerate it, I dont play your content at all. I'll go read a book - or browse elsewhere.
Interesting. I don't use Edge, mostly firefox, with a custom new tab so I don't see any of that crap, otherwise set to open last tabs on startup.
Also all set to "no tracking" options on, which must help a bit.
Oh, and third party cookies set to block. The only time that's a problem is if someone wants me to use teams - I won't install the desktop app, and in a browser window it requires you to allow third party cookies! Good old M$
Also all set to "no tracking" options on, which must help a bit.
Oh, and third party cookies set to block. The only time that's a problem is if someone wants me to use teams - I won't install the desktop app, and in a browser window it requires you to allow third party cookies! Good old M$
I see no ads! On not one single page anymore: Firefox & addons. Oh, those adds!
Same happens if you make a donation to diyAudio. People seeing ads have not contributed to the financial health of the forum.
A little star like this at the bottom of the poster’s info:

clik it it will take you to the donation page.
dave

Perhaps we will see a few more added over the next days...
It may be things you don't even think of that trigger ads. It's not that the advert companies "know" - it's that the algorithms figure it out. I'm sure we all remember the famous case of large retailer Target predicting a 15 year old girl's pregnancy simply from what she was buying.
How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did
This is so creepy. And it's wrong.
They dig so deep in our bums looking for the tiniest bit of information they can use to spam the f--- out of us. It's rude, it's intrusive, it's creepy, and it's a huge turn off for a lot of people.
Imagine I was stalking someone. I put a bot in her computer to glean any bit of information I can about her, so I can target her with my special kind of creepiness. What does that make me? Chester the Molester, that's what. I could probably face charges in some jurisdictions.
But if I'm Target, it's just business. Business ethics is an oxymoron today.