OPA541 improved with OPA452

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The OPA541 is a powerful chip.
Package is 11-pin TO-220.
When used with only a few parts it can output 9-10A and dissipate 125 Watt.
Power supply can be up to +/- 40 Volt.
The THD is low but not the best.

To perform with lower THD we can use a driver chip.
This will control the OPA541.
We need an op amp with max power supply +/- 40 Volt.
This is where OPA452 comes in.
Package is 7-pin TO-220 or DDPAK/TO-263.
OPA452 is unity gain stable.

The power supply is 2x24VAC.
I recommend one 300VA transformer.

Result is 48 Watt output in 8 Ohm.
With very low distortion.
 

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I think he chose the OPA452 not because of voltage but because its slew rate and bandwidth are on paper a close match for the OPA541. You cannot use "any" chip to drive the OPA541 because you will run into problems with stability as it is relatively slow compared to most normal op-amps. Look how complex TomCHR had to get to include an LM3886 inside a normal op-amp's feedback.
 
Just want to say that I enjoy your "ideas" from the drawing board and simulations very much, lineup.
In fact I bookmarked a couple projects that I would have started, had I not digged into too many projects.

Will you try this one for yourself or are just happy simulating and musing away?
Let me know if you need opa541, still have some samples here that I'd contribute.
Cheers and keep up the good work
 
I think he chose the OPA452 not because of voltage but because its slew rate and bandwidth are on paper a close match for the OPA541. You cannot use "any" chip to drive the OPA541 because you will run into problems with stability as it is relatively slow compared to most normal op-amps. Look how complex TomCHR had to get to include an LM3886 inside a normal op-amp's feedback.
Would a simple low pass on the driver work sufficiently to reduce bandwidth or would it still be prone to instability?
 
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There is no any composite circuit that Richie is referring to, which should be Modulus 86, and no any circuit of it I have seen.
By the way, any opamp can be slowed down to bear the dominant pole, a capacitor from output to minus input will do.
 
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I did simulate your circuit, it looks very good. 0.0005%THD at 42w 1khz.
The spice models of both circuits have implemented distortion characters , I verified both.
With 500 ohms feedback instead of 1k, it is more stable and lower distortion.
 

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I thought I had seen a schematic for modulus86, thought it was on Neurochrome website but you are correct it's not there now.

I remember. There was a network between the output of the op amp and the input of the 3886.

There's other ways to achieve stability criteria. https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/b...63898&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mouser.com%2F Look at figure 24. I've seen where there was a third resistor; the capacitor connects in the middle of the feedback resistor between output and inverting input.

Walt Jung details feedforward compensation in his IC Op Amp Cookbook. I've wondered if this could address stability issues with composite amplifiers. I've never investigated it. I think it would work.

This is the same issue faced with traditional discrete power amplifiers. The output devices are almost always the slowest devices in the circuit. Cdom is the traditional way to address this. All it does is slow down the front end of the circuit and provide a dominant pole, instead of having stacked poles at frequencies where the circuit still has loop gain.
 
FauxFrench tried it out applying meticulously to the instructions, the circuit doesn't work. The quiescent operating point cannot find, oscillating from rail to rail. It is the same result on simulator.

are you referring to the figure I presented -- in fact Bob brought the amplifier to the NJ Audio Society a few years ago and we auditioned. It sounded wonderful
 
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