I noticed that in the second schematic in post #1, V131 (FQA40N25) the Fairchild N-channel QFET is specified as a 250V device, while V132 (FQA36P15) the P-channel is a 150V device. These are the Power MOSFETS listed in Vunce’s Mouser BOMs, which I had just ordered today.
Out of curiosity, could someone explain the reason for specifying a 250V N-Channel, while the complementary P-channel is 150V?
Mouser has in stock an N-Channel QFET (FQA46N15) specified for 150V. Would that be a better complementary device for the 150V P-Channel?
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ON-Semiconductor-Fairchild/FQA46N15?qs=7j7f/9GINBGCx53nOtb/Dw==
Out of curiosity, could someone explain the reason for specifying a 250V N-Channel, while the complementary P-channel is 150V?
Mouser has in stock an N-Channel QFET (FQA46N15) specified for 150V. Would that be a better complementary device for the 150V P-Channel?
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ON-Semiconductor-Fairchild/FQA46N15?qs=7j7f/9GINBGCx53nOtb/Dw==
Maybe it's like the IRFP9140 is the better complementary to the IRFP240 in audio sight, too. The parameters are better between them.
Hi Francois,
Great question and I think the FQA46N15 might work even better. The one we spec’d was based on what Hugh had recommended for the Alpha 20 long ago. In reviewing the specs it seems the 46N15 has lower input capacitance and higher trans conductance and only 30w less dissipation power. It was the 280w vs 250w that was probably the deciding choice as we were looking for something very thermally robust. Both Vunce and myself have even used IRFP9240 here and it works fine although pushing the safe operating limits for the IRFP to only use a single for a 100w amp.
I’ll make a note on Post 1 that the 46N15 is also a good (perhaps better) choice. I’ll wait until Hugh chime in on this too before we say it is definitively better.
Thanks.
Great question and I think the FQA46N15 might work even better. The one we spec’d was based on what Hugh had recommended for the Alpha 20 long ago. In reviewing the specs it seems the 46N15 has lower input capacitance and higher trans conductance and only 30w less dissipation power. It was the 280w vs 250w that was probably the deciding choice as we were looking for something very thermally robust. Both Vunce and myself have even used IRFP9240 here and it works fine although pushing the safe operating limits for the IRFP to only use a single for a 100w amp.
I’ll make a note on Post 1 that the 46N15 is also a good (perhaps better) choice. I’ll wait until Hugh chime in on this too before we say it is definitively better.
Thanks.
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Quick question - the feedback resistors, R141 and R108 in the original schematic from post #1, are specified as carbon. It is my understanding that in general, carbon resistors will exhibit more noise in the audio band than thin-film metal, so I am wondering about the rationale?
I was looking at this article from EE Times:
https://www.eetimes.com/selecting-r...ifier-and-other-high-end-audio-applications/#
Thanks
I was looking at this article from EE Times:
https://www.eetimes.com/selecting-r...ifier-and-other-high-end-audio-applications/#
Thanks
You want carbon film and noise is not the factor here but the generated higher second order vs third order harmonic distortion of the carbon film vs metal thin film. Metal thin film or metal foil or bulk laser trimmed metal are lower overall THD. But carbon film will sound more natural with just a tad higher THD. You need to hand match them though as they come 5% from factory.
But metal thin film will work and sound just fine. Use good quality ones here.
But metal thin film will work and sound just fine. Use good quality ones here.
Mouser BOM for the All C's. The only part not from Mouser is the bridge rectifier, which is stocked at Digi-Key. Beware this is my first BOM attempt. I am hoping that some knowledgeable people can have a look at it. It is for 2 channels. If the link does not work I will ask how to attach the link.
Regards,
MM
Mouser Electronics Canada
Regards,
MM
Mouser Electronics Canada
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Were there any options for power supplies that avoid having to deal with transformers and mains wiring?
A +/- 52V SMPS was mentioned in the first post but I had a google and didn't turn anything up (locally anyway - one listing on ebay US).
A +/- 52V SMPS was mentioned in the first post but I had a google and didn't turn anything up (locally anyway - one listing on ebay US).
Use two of the 48v or 50v 1000w SMPS in series for a dual rail supply. As long as chassis ground is isolated from output negative.
12V 15V 18V 24V 27V 36V 48V 50V 60V 70V 80V 90V Switching Power Supply Single Output LED Strip ac dc 720w 800w 1000w 1200w SMPS|Switching Power Supply| - AliExpress
12V 15V 18V 24V 27V 36V 48V 50V 60V 70V 80V 90V Switching Power Supply Single Output LED Strip ac dc 720w 800w 1000w 1200w SMPS|Switching Power Supply| - AliExpress
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Something like this might offer reasonable mileage:
SMPS300RE | Connex Electronic
in that it's an SMPS with bipolar delivery.
SMPS300RE | Connex Electronic
in that it's an SMPS with bipolar delivery.
You want carbon film and noise is not the factor here but the generated higher second order vs third order harmonic distortion of the carbon film vs metal thin film. Metal thin film or metal foil or bulk laser trimmed metal are lower overall THD. But carbon film will sound more natural with just a tad higher THD. You need to hand match them though as they come 5% from factory.
But metal thin film will work and sound just fine. Use good quality ones here.
Good to know - I was pretty unaware of the carbon impact on harmonic signature. I guess Erno Borbely was hinting at something similar when he stated in this article that he preferred Caddock MK132s (since replaced by MK232 series) for feedback and input use in FET amps. These are thick (as opposed to thin) film deposited metal resistors which, according to the EE Times article I mentioned before, are more similar to carbon in terms of noise. They are also serious money, > $5.00 each, but are 1% tolerance.
@wtnh,
I use Takman “Rex” (2%) carbon film resistors when called for. Very reasonably priced.
http://solidgreen.co.jp/products/pdf/REX.pdf
Takman Carbon Films | Hifi Collective
Takman Carbon Film - REX, Sonic Craft
Takman Carbon Film REX Series Resistors
I use Takman “Rex” (2%) carbon film resistors when called for. Very reasonably priced.
http://solidgreen.co.jp/products/pdf/REX.pdf
Takman Carbon Films | Hifi Collective
Takman Carbon Film - REX, Sonic Craft
Takman Carbon Film REX Series Resistors
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Thanks, Vunce. Sonic Craft is new to me - looks like an excellent source of various high-end parts in the US.
Hi Vunce,
Checking some BOM stuff and was wondering if the green LED's should be a Vf of 2.2 or 12. Mouser lists part as having Vf of 12 and Digikey has standard Vf of 2.2.
Thanks for the help,
MM
Checking some BOM stuff and was wondering if the green LED's should be a Vf of 2.2 or 12. Mouser lists part as having Vf of 12 and Digikey has standard Vf of 2.2.
Thanks for the help,
MM
The LEDs in the BOM are indeed 12 Volts and contain an integrated current limiting resistor - looks like they are intended for automotive applications. The schematic already shows a resistor for the LED so you would not want to use the one in the BOM - just a regular LED.
Hi guys, which LED are you talking about? If this is the indicator LED for the PSU, a regular one with circa 2v drop is fine. I don’t recall any that have a built in resistor and meant for 12v. If so, that’s an error - a standard LED should be used.
On the FH9HVX amp board, there is a red LED that is an indicator on the input stage CCS. That one is less than 2v drop.
@Meanie, regarding +/-56v - I think it can work and if caps are 63v rated it will be fine. I might have to look at if some setpoints need adjustment for optimum performance though.
On the FH9HVX amp board, there is a red LED that is an indicator on the input stage CCS. That one is less than 2v drop.
@Meanie, regarding +/-56v - I think it can work and if caps are 63v rated it will be fine. I might have to look at if some setpoints need adjustment for optimum performance though.
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