I want to build a large woofer 2way without horn. A 8 or 12 inch woofer. Something established or something I can run active. I don’t need it to be be flat or sound perfect just be loud and go low and sound good.
How about the A26? This the sort of thing you are looking for?
Seas A26 10" 2-way Kit Pair (based on the classic A25)
Seas A26 10" 2-way Kit Pair (based on the classic A25)
Use small fullrange driver and a woofer, no tweeter needed. Look for FAST or WAW labeled prokects from this forum as an example.
The tweeters in that kit are $265 each so there's most of the cost if you can find an alternative.
No just horns and compression drivers. Anything with a longer throw. I have not heard a horn I liked.
Here’s an example - 10F/8424 & RS225-8 FAST / WAW Ref Monitor
Only a 9” woofer but gives you and idea. If you are starting from scratch then something like this but with a Dayton RSS woofer plus the 10f May be worth investigating. But this will need quite a bit of power to get it going loud.
What about small full range with woofer. No horns, no honk.
You can select any size of the woofer.
You can select any small full range.
You can cross anywhere between 200 and 500, or higher, depending on woofer breakups, power handling, and so on.
You can make it passive, you can make it active, biamp...
If you make right decisions, you will end up with an amazing sound. Small fullrange coherency, deep low end of woofer, great dynamics...
I would select faitalPro 3fe22 or 4fe32. Woofer, its up to you, depends how big the box you want, how much you want to pay for it...
Good luck!
You can select any size of the woofer.
You can select any small full range.
You can cross anywhere between 200 and 500, or higher, depending on woofer breakups, power handling, and so on.
You can make it passive, you can make it active, biamp...
If you make right decisions, you will end up with an amazing sound. Small fullrange coherency, deep low end of woofer, great dynamics...
I would select faitalPro 3fe22 or 4fe32. Woofer, its up to you, depends how big the box you want, how much you want to pay for it...
Good luck!
How loud, how low, how big, how expensive?
How about a pair of the big ESS Heil tweeters with a pro 12" woofer for high efficiency and punch? The Heils are quite a bit cheaper than the Seas tweeters referenced earlier. Faital Pro 12PR320, active xover @ 1k should work well. Or go deeper but not as loud with a 10" or 12" Peerless SLS woofer as used in the Tarkus?
Bill
How about a pair of the big ESS Heil tweeters with a pro 12" woofer for high efficiency and punch? The Heils are quite a bit cheaper than the Seas tweeters referenced earlier. Faital Pro 12PR320, active xover @ 1k should work well. Or go deeper but not as loud with a 10" or 12" Peerless SLS woofer as used in the Tarkus?
Bill
Do you know if the scan 10f panned out as the best of the small Fullrange for this use? If not then which one?
I'm hearing the polyimide compression drivers described as sounding like silk domes. Paired with a shallow/open waveguide horn (say SEOS or big QSC style) might be pretty convincing. Probably do lose out on very top octave though.
Heil AMT | ESS Laboratories, LLC
They go on sale periodically. I paid $155/ea for mine a few months ago.
That was my 1st thot when i saw the thread title.
Consider it an evolution of the Dyanco A25.
Scott & i did a modern TL tribute to the classic Radford/IMFs specifically for this kit.
http://p10hifi.net/tlinespeakers/FAL/box-plans/classicTL-revisited-WD.pdf
dave
The Scan 10F used is really a midrange, very smooth but no bottom and weak top. There is a cheaper one (i have not heard it thou) that looks better on paper.
I am a big fan of WAW (Scott & i are working together on another right now), my goto midTweeters are Mark Audio Alpair 5.2/7.3/7ms, and Fostex FF85wk.
We have done a number of variations and now have 2 out with passive XOs. None have big woofers, but both use a pair (6.5” in one, 5: in the other).
dave
Yes. We have done a couple speakers with the classic Heil, and were quite pleased with their performance.
dave