Ok, so it isn't motor related. Does the cone creak when it bends or are we talking about conventional breakup matters?
Assuming no basic design flaws or defects such as channels out of phase or misbalanced output levels ... Nope.
Once again... two independent channels, deliberately designed to share as little information as possible (stereo separation) and not one little part in the whole mess that is intended to create a sound stage.... not one.
Here's a simple test you can try at home ... you will need a stereo signal generator (there's an app for that).
Note: do this at relatively low volume, 40 or 50 db. Sustained high pitched tones at high levels can perminently damage your hearing.
Feed a 1khz signal into one speaker... then the other... no problem you can pinpoint exactly where it's coming from.
Now fee it at equal levels and in phase into both speakers... if your setup is proper you will hear a single tone half way between your speakers.
Now turn one channel down, notice how the sound moves toward the louder channel. Turn it back up and now turn down the other one... same effect with the other speaker.
Now turn both channels up and down together, just a bit... notice how the sound seems to move forward and back.
Now finally feed the two channels 180 degrees out of phase... you will hear two separate tones, one from each speaker.
That's how soundstage works...
It is purely an illusion created by the relative amplitude and phase of the sound as it reaches your ears.
In the mixing board the engineers manipulate the levels and phase of the various channels in the recording to produce the *illusion* of things happening at different positions between your speakers.
Your home system has very little to do with that, unless you have carelessly set it up with unequal distances between your speakers and listening position or have the listening position off centre of the speakers... then the whole thing goes for a crap.
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If that's the way you perceive pitch... yes.
For me the soundstage generally plays out as a level line between the speakers.
No-one really knows hoe EnABL works but it has to doing subtle things about the coherence and how the wave is launched from the cone. And it (or the conformal coating) tends to supress some of the HF ringng without subtracting detail.
dave
In my system, with a good recording, the image/soundstage is very 3D and blows the back wall away (as in it seems to disappear with the soundspace hanging out behind the loudspeaker, incluuding height.
Most speaker si have heard don’t. And i have heard many, many.
dave
I get all that, except height from my own system.
It's a difference in perception more than anything else.
Given that a comparison of 2 identical seakers other than 1 set being EnABLed, despite it indeed being a construct of the mind, the speaker can decidely influence that.
More information coming from a loudspeaker gives the ear/brain more data to work with.
dave
Okay... let me try that one more time...
In general, both indoors and out, while I can locate a sound pretty well in the horizontal plane, I've never been particularly good at locating it in vertical plane.
Nothing to do with speakers... just a difference in the way our ears work.
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Either a shortcoming of your ear/brain or you have not heard the right speakers yet
dave
That's what I just told you.
It's hardly crippling, just one of those things you notice.
I'd be interested in a study that compares IMD non-linear distortion across types of membrane. I wonder if a pattern would emerge?
Old story, too bad drivers are not reviewed this way, yeah.
I don't remember if Mark (web site down) tested that way. don't remember Zaph did, Linkwitz did few units.
AudioX mag and else Hobbyhifi ?
Imo the nightmare of manufacterers if they did... you will see so few reviews that the magazines collaps imho !
But indeed it will be usefull for choosing the crossovers and the drivers themselves.
I don't remember if Mark (web site down) tested that way. don't remember Zaph did, Linkwitz did few units.
AudioX mag and else Hobbyhifi ?
Imo the nightmare of manufacterers if they did... you will see so few reviews that the magazines collaps imho !
But indeed it will be usefull for choosing the crossovers and the drivers themselves.
I have looked at some of his videos, he seems to have quite a few stories to tell!
I sort of get the picture of "the old man on a mountain top", he almost seems to talk in riddles sometimes, as someone who has seen the big picture and is one with the world. 😀
Are you talking about Paul McGowan? Funny how perception varies, watching his videos he comes across to me as a first rate BS merchant 🙂
He does seem a bit "far out" sometimes, but then again, the questions asked isn't really making for an opportunity to bring out the chalkboard either. 🙂
I'm not sure if he's an engineer or just self taught, might make a difference as well.