It would appear to be totally relevant. If hydroxychloroquine works that is how it works and Quercetin may do the same thing although a high dose would be required.
Here is the relevant link to MedCram....again:YouTube
Didn't you post an additional video by him in which he explains the mechanism of virus replication inside a cell and why zinc (when inside the cell) could weaken/block it?
Slowing down in NYC I what I had meant to say. Slowing but still increasing. It’s getting close to critical at local hospitals.
So I'll admit, based on the abstract that the whole zinc uptake thing, I didn't realize folks were using that as basis for how hydroxychloroquine was potentially helpful.
Did you at any time actually watch the vid I linked to?
'Folks' in this case is a Dr Seheult, a pulmonary disease and critical care specialist.
Didn't you post an additional video by him in which he explains the mechanism of virus replication inside a cell and why zinc (when inside the cell) could weaken/block it?
Yes, I did in the old thread.
Dr Seheult has posted 47 coronavirus updates so far so forgive me if I won't dig it up again.
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If you google there are inventive types making positive pressure hoods with pumps/filters.
I'm attempting to do so right here, right now in a sister thread in The Lounge.
Please, if you have a moment, share the specific links - I for one would be most interested in what others are doing in this regard. Thanks!
It has an incredibly "velcro-ey" outer surface (That's a technical term. 🙂) so it sticks to everything pretty tenaciously and has a pretty long half life on most materials.
R0, which is the boots on the ground infection rate, wouldn't fall from that number, so I wonder if he's speaking to the above.
Not sure - but it scares the hell out of me!
I remember reading about Ebola about 15 yrs ago where it is so contagious and so deadly, investigators would go into a village in Africa and everyone would be dead. It sort of snuffs itself out.
Did you at any time actually watch the vid I linked to?
'Folks' in this case is a Dr Seheult, a pulmonary disease and critical care specialist.
I recently did, and folks is a lot more than just Dr. Seheult, but a good enough chunk of the medical community to put in place tests in regions of China (which is what he was explaining). Actually, that was the premise behind why it might help with Zika and Ebola -- the tepid response it showed there gave hope it might be useful for COVID-19. Do I need to more explicitly state my apology for carefully reading the abstract and wondering how it applied to the present issue? Especially given the video you linked said, "extra zinc probably doesn't help most folks".
I will also note that said video was made almost 3 weeks ago. In this emergent of a world, that's decades. So that was the hypothesis, now we need the data.
Yes, I did in the old thread.
Dr Seheult has posted 47 coronavirus updates so far so forgive me if I won't dig it up again.
No problem, just needed a confirmation on the thread, so I hope you don't mind:
YouTube
In this one he explains the mechanisms behind the zinc idea...
Vitamin C helps usually too, but if taken in high doses seems to inhibit the absorbtion of zinc.
There's not much evidence for Vitamin C. It's something that's been hopelessly pushed forever by disciples of Linus Pauling, who clearly went off the deep end at some point. You probably won't hurt anything taking oral Vitamin C as long as your stomach can handle it.
However, there was a small trial in NY of high dose intravenous Vitamin C for COVID-19 treatment. Based on comments from an ID doctor in a podcast from yesterday, they have stopped that because it appeared to be making things worse.
There's not much evidence for Vitamin C.<snip>
The verdict on the usage of high doses of Vitamin C in complementary cancer treatment seems to be still open, but my comment was related to the intake of zinc.
It seems that "normal" doses of Vitamin C enhances the bioavailability of zinc while high doses seem to do the contrary.
It has an incredibly "velcro-ey" outer surface (That's a technical term. 🙂) so it sticks to everything pretty tenaciously and has a pretty long half life on most materials.
Given that it sticks to "everything pretty tenaciously" one question becomes how easy does it come off once stuck?
Is there a specific type of fiber that, once stuck to, it isnt ever coming off? Charcoal? Carbon fiber? Organic Cotton or inorganic fiberglass...Polyester? Hair?
How about when carried by a water droplet or water+mucous and lands on a substrate quite capable of wicking away moisture - leaving the sticky virus bound up with the mucous part, attached to the fiber tendril that wicked away the water component of the solution?
Can we take advantage of this aspect to stop it; the same one that makes it so effective after entering the respiratory tract?
I know this is your schtick, Joe, but asking here constantly isn't helping your cause. Gotta do your research a bit better -- COVID-19 isn't particularly unique in this aspect, lots of pathogens do their best to stick (well, evolutionary-speaking, it's advantageous to their propagation).
There's a reason we use the materials we do in medical facilities. Both from durability/ease of cleaning and their natural propensity to take up pathogens. Or lack thereof. PPE is pretty well researched, especially on the materials side.
There's a reason we use the materials we do in medical facilities. Both from durability/ease of cleaning and their natural propensity to take up pathogens. Or lack thereof. PPE is pretty well researched, especially on the materials side.
Chlorohexidine in pink or blue color works great for disinfecting. Can also be used in shallow wounds/cuts. Brand name Hibiclens for hand and body washing. For material disinfecting there are other stronger solutions of Chlorohexidine.
Even Veterinarians use it to clean there clinics.
Even Veterinarians use it to clean there clinics.
If IRRC, Chlorohexadine is used in a mouthwash as well.
I used to have a prescription for it.
Not sure why the oral solution of Chlorohexidine would need prescription, when one can buy Chlorhexidine solutions over the counter without any scripts.
Of course its not meant to be ingested so maybe its a safety precaution for the oral formula. But then again so is toothpaste. lol
I am also into holistic type of medicines.
Colloidal Silver is what I recommend. You can spray it in your mouth and ingest it, you can spray it in your nose, ears and even eyes. You can spray it on any cuts or wounds including rashes. Start with 10ppm and work your way up to 250ppm.
Careful, let's not go down this road. Apparently I was not descriptive or expansive enough in the original post. Ingestion of colloidal silver is not evidence-based medicine.
Maybe I should have had lower expectations since this is an audio forum.
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Careful, let's not go down this road. Apparently I was not descriptive or expansive enough in the original post. Ingestion of colloidal silver is not evidence-based medicine.
Maybe I should have had lower expectations since this is an audio forum.
What road? Others mentioned vitamin c and zinc. Colloidal silver is similar in effect to strengthening immune system.
Pot shots eyyy aint that violating rule number 1? LOL
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Not sure why the oral solution of Chlorohexidine would need prescription, when one can buy Chlorhexidine solutions over the counter without any scripts.
Of course its not meant to be ingested so maybe its a safety precaution for the oral formula. But then again so is toothpaste. lol
It might because his mouthwash had a very high amount of fluoride. There are prescription toothpastes that have higher percentages than you can get OTC.
It might because his mouthwash had a very high amount of fluoride. There are prescription toothpastes that have higher percentages than you can get OTC.
You just assuming his mouth wash had very high amounts of fluoride. What does prescription toothpaste have anything to do with his mouth wash?
Plus why was my post erased? No rules were violated!!!
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