Fine as long as it's recognised that it's not "right". SWMBO and I have very different tastes in art, music, and film. We celebrate that, and never try and say the other is wrong....
I cannot say-it better.
Exists nowadays some robots composers. Listening to their productions, they obviously need ...a robot's audience ;-)
I agree with all the above, but why then pushing so hard for a prove when someone prefers something.
Emotions cannot be proven.
But we can very well discuss technical and measurable differences.
If someone had a bright idea to reduce distortion or improve another technical feature in whatever way, that can be very challenging and motivating.
Hans
Is when those who say something sounds better because it's more true to the original whilst at the same time not being interested in measuring what is causing it to sound better worth discussing?
Emotions cannot be proven, yes, but they can be shared, and that's all the purpose of music, no ?
As said Richard, Blues, in a very simple frame "bypass the brain and go direct to your heart".
If we look at all the other 7 arts, they all have, more or less, a meaning and/or a function. Music is THE exception. A pure human creation that just vibrate on the laws of the nature.
Hifi being just a media to carry those emotions, measurements are just a way to verify that no annoying obstacles make the road uncomfortable ;-).
Can't we exchange about the trip itself ?
Just the usual marketing mumbo jumbo. 🙄
I can. You see, he is here to push a business narrative. You or anyone can correct the flaws in his posts but they will not get through. Why? Again, it's a business decision.
As long as they prefer the change and don’t want to go in any detail, let them be happy with it.
However when they tell that the sound IS better, they should come with some valid explanation, theory or measurement or else expect an avalanche of reactions.
Hans
To you, in your subjective non-scientific listening comparison method approved by you.
Lets say you sell audio cables and those valid explanation, theory or measurement don't support the claims you've made, what would you do when you want to continue selling those cables?
Unfortunately some people here are conflating prefer with better which is not helpful to the discussion IMO.
I'm not sure LCR of the signal wires tell us much. It's other parameters that interest me.
This is the part that interests me. The Neutrik EMC series effectively allows this sort of connection and I think there is mileage in others trying the OEO approach.
Maybe I am a cold clinical fish, but for now just doing the best for my signals would satisfy me.
It's not easy to answer but at least, if the scope is constrained to balanced feeds then I think there may some interesting investigations to be had and a hope of some useful data. If I can think of a workable test I will let you know 🙂
If there’s nothing positive to tell apart from making claims how fantastic your cables are, this person is probably in the wrong business.
Maybe but not likely, a superior marketing concept could help him.
Hans
These never ending debates are some pretty good evidence.
I’ve correlated a lot of what I’m not supposed to be hearing to phase relationships between amp/xo/speaker.
Capacitance has also made a difference in speaker wire.
Many things I’ve identified were heard first and sleuthed out later.....many of theses things align with the 5% (or whatever random number)
Maybe most people think it doesn’t matter but when you hear what having everything fine tuned sounds like it’s hard going back.
zzzzz
If one day Mr. Lmdblt manifests even the beginning of the draft of a new idea, will someone be so kind as to warn me?
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They are evidence that no evidence is being shown, that isn't a mystery to me, is it to you? 😉
Well maybe at the very least the bar needs to rise as to what defines ‘good enough’ because the old standby measurements don’t seem to relay the subtleties.
‘mid-fi’ does seem to impress nowadays.....in fact most of my disappointment seems to stem from the higher end.
‘mid-fi’ does seem to impress nowadays.....in fact most of my disappointment seems to stem from the higher end.
Maybe better not to exclude any at this point. Pretty sure some of the other parameters are involved.
Agreed. It usually works better sound-wise. It also tends to matter which end is O.
In what way? (assuming here sane cable and not audiophool cable)
Source is grounded in OEO. I'm not going to argue with Whitlock on that.
Oh, what high end is that? There is bad stuff and good stuff in that market.
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Sorry, guys. I have to call some things good or bad based on a belief you would most likely agree if you heard it. In other words, it is a statement about estimated probability.
When speaking of what is better to me alone, I tend to use the words 'personal preference.'
About high frequency in cables and skin effects, can someone indicates the differences between a single strand cable and a multi-strand?
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