@Scottjoplin,
I think, I've forgotten to answer your question wrt the meaning of the term "psychoacoustics".
Jens Blauert defined it as "search if a acoustical event evokes an auditory sensation" (or if a difference between two acoustical events evokes different auditory sensations)
Another, more general definition is given by:
"Psychoacoustics is the study of the behavioral consequences of sound
stimulation, that is, hearing. Psychophysicists, in general, and psychoacousticians, in particular, have searched for functional relationships between measures of behavior and the physical properties of sensory stimulation; for psychoacousticians, this is the search for:
Omega = f(S)
where Omega is a measure of behavior, S is a physical property of sound, and f( ) represents a functional relationship.
Detection, discrimination, identification, and judging (scaling) have been
the primary measures of Omega studied by psychoacousticians."
( William A. Yost, Arthur N. Popper, Richard R. Fay; Human Psychophysics, 1993, 1)
I think, I've forgotten to answer your question wrt the meaning of the term "psychoacoustics".
Jens Blauert defined it as "search if a acoustical event evokes an auditory sensation" (or if a difference between two acoustical events evokes different auditory sensations)
Another, more general definition is given by:
"Psychoacoustics is the study of the behavioral consequences of sound
stimulation, that is, hearing. Psychophysicists, in general, and psychoacousticians, in particular, have searched for functional relationships between measures of behavior and the physical properties of sensory stimulation; for psychoacousticians, this is the search for:
Omega = f(S)
where Omega is a measure of behavior, S is a physical property of sound, and f( ) represents a functional relationship.
Detection, discrimination, identification, and judging (scaling) have been
the primary measures of Omega studied by psychoacousticians."
( William A. Yost, Arthur N. Popper, Richard R. Fay; Human Psychophysics, 1993, 1)
Because there is no connection between this noise and any kind of "music"*, I don't see your "musical" censorship point.
And you word "ejaculation" is appropriate: Ejaculation implies some kind of love and I love music more than everything else: I see only an intended hate and ugliness in the way those guys "stay on the scene".
Now, if you wish to consider that borborygmi of two alcoholics in a bar can benefit from the label of "poetry", free to you. The fact remains that the approach of those two drunks has no more to do with literature than these provocative teens with music. They make a maximum unpleasant noise, they dress themselves in filthy clothes stained with wine or blood and praise the murder to annoy the bourgeois, that's all.
Nothing new, but the old punks all ended up making music, after a while: all hope is not lost for them.
More on Zappa, with my Friend J.L. Ponty.
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Breaking the walls between blues Jazz and classical music with joy, love and elegance..
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I was talking to a work colleague about 20 years ago and the subject of our dogs came up. He proudly told be about his 60lb rescue mutt and how he liked going riding his bike in the forests behind his house in Portland.
He asked me what dog I had. ‘A Poodle’ I replied.
He looked at me in disgust. ‘A Poodle? Hell that ain’t a dog man!’
To which I replied ‘Precisely’.
Same with music.
He asked me what dog I had. ‘A Poodle’ I replied.
He looked at me in disgust. ‘A Poodle? Hell that ain’t a dog man!’
To which I replied ‘Precisely’.
Same with music.
Interesting. The kind of music people like may bear some correlation to how sensitive they are to particular aspects of reproduction sound quality.
The kind of music Ovi likes may indeed sound 'better' or maybe not importantly different after mp3 processing.
The kind of music that Bonsai likes may not require the same balance of reproduction characteristics that is important to best enjoyable reproduction of the music T. likes.
The kind of music Ovi likes may indeed sound 'better' or maybe not importantly different after mp3 processing.
The kind of music that Bonsai likes may not require the same balance of reproduction characteristics that is important to best enjoyable reproduction of the music T. likes.
Still, you may value certain things about those characteristics reproduced more accurately, and there is also an aspect of extent or magnitude. Maybe a vector.
Also, a tendency is not the same thing as a strict rule. Humans preferences and behaviors often take the form of tendencies.
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The exact opposite. The snob if the one that listened to some provocative free Jazz concert with an air inspired and constipated, (all hiding as best as possible the fact that they were bored copiously) to try to make people around believe that they understood something of the incomprehensible.
I quoted Miles Davis because of that: he explained well how he didn't give a damn about everyone in his "free free" era to see how far the snobbery could go.
He owned two Ferraris and was arrested by the cops every week for the pleasure of telling them "Not only did I not steal it, but I own two of them and my name is Miles Davis".
One day when he was talking with his mistress, the iconic singer Juliette greco, in Paris, it had snowed. He showed her the snow and said: One day, I will have a white Rolls with a white driver. It was not snobbery, it was grief.
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I have a very eclectic playlist and the one thing I look for most is recording quality.....if it’s lacking headroom/dynamics but I still like the music the track is relegated to the B list. I’ve got almost 4K tracks on the A list so it’s not that big of an issue.
I suppose I’m a recording snob!
I suppose I’m a recording snob!
I can hear another bunch of horrified "audiophiles". Strictly about BB, one probably needs to live his childhood in a small midwest town to get the angst diffusing from BB's music. If anything else, it's kind of revenge for a lost youth. That's yet another reason why I don't like bands of the kin of Ramones - behind some catchy lines there's only a bunch of spoiled white kids finding a new toy to play with,
That's a pretty funny post.
The lead singer / guitarist / founder of Big Black is a very well known and
successful recording engineer / producer named Steve Albini, (he actually
did Nirvana's 'In Utero').
Quote from Albini:
Here's Albini, a switched on and articulate guy.
YouTube
TCD
I certainly don't listen to the same cymbal smash again and again and again and again. I value the music first. Secondly is the soundfield. Decay tails are down in 80th place.
Nope, your are an audiophile. You have it bad by the sounds of it. I am sure there is a local help group
I didn't see any evidence of love in your verbal ejaculation, the exact opposite, but then, of course, it wasn't "music" in your not so humble opinion.
Decay tails are part of sound field reproduction. You must know that? Maybe you want to play debating games.
Nobody listens to repeated cymbal hits for pleasure listening. It can be a factor requiring attention during equipment design, or for evaluation of completed equipment. Again, you can't figure that out? I think you can.
Thanks for the links. Yellow Shark is a great album.
And here BBC Four - BBC Young Musician, 2010, Percussion, Lucy Landymore - The Black Page by Frank Zappa
I'm afraid so, hopefully it's just a phase....Nope, your are an audiophile. You have it bad by the sounds of it. I am sure there is a local help group
His name will also go (high up) on the list
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You are late, BB got quoted precisely in the context of Steve Albini and his role in promoting a DIY attitude in music production, vs. the vanishing big studios that some are missing.
And you don't have to remind me who Steve Albini is, somehow I think I know him and his accomplishments well
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