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Canada is a great country. My Iranian friend Amir Ateran told me it was heaven on earth. You can guess how I reacted when events unfolded. When another friend Martyn Miles was grief stricken the Gordon Lightfoot club insisted he got on an aircraft. Gordon himself helped comfort him. I have a lot of time for Canada. Damn it keep warm and look after yourselves. Vancouver and Seattle must be very similar? Maybe like Edinburgh and Newcastle if they could ignore countries? I dare say Bombardier is involved?
 
Canada is a great country. My Iranian friend Amir Ateran told me it was heaven on earth. You can guess how I reacted when events unfolded. When another friend Martyn Miles was grief stricken the Gordon Lightfoot club insisted he got on an aircraft. Gordon himself helped comfort him. I have a lot of time for Canada. Damn it keep warm and look after yourselves. Vancouver and Seattle must be very similar? Maybe like Edinburgh and Newcastle if they could ignore countries? I dare say Bombardier is involved?

Well I can se Australia being like canada just swap the heater for the airconditioner, and there population density is like here so lots of transport fuel used. Whats the Americans excuse? Oh yea its "fake science".
 
I thought Bonsai was stating total CO2 emissions not per capita or per person, which I have to agree, we must be up there on a per capita basis, for the reasons that you point out.
It is surprising how many people in the rural areas still heat with wood as it is plentiful, esp with all the Ash tress dead & dying.
I do my part, I believe, I drive a 4cyl Camry and the gas guzzling 5.7l Chev pickup truck just sits there, only being used on the odd occasion for picking up material for construction and the like. Have a small window A/C for Mom as she can not handle the heat & humidity. If everyone followed my model, I do not think we would be nearly as bad.
I am surprised about Australia, but I understand they burn a fair bit of coal for electric power.
Thanks Nigel for you vote of confidence in Canada, I am lucky to have been born here.
 
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Pls do not be shy, spell them for a simplton, like myself, so there is know doubt who you are referring too.
(China, India, USA and Europe)? correct me if I am wrong.
Bit concerned that you maybe lumping Canada in with the USA, for which, at least I, would take offense too.

Yes, you are right in who the letters stand for.

I would neber lump Canada in with anyone else ;)

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737 Max crisis: Boeing sees lowest orders in decades - BBC News


"Boeing said net orders after cancellations for 2019 totalled just 54 planes. That compares with 893 the previous year."


"Boeing's new chief executive David Calhoun took the helm of the manufacturer on Monday.Mr Calhoun said he is "confident in the future" of the firm, telling staff his "primary focus" will be returning the 737 Max to the skies"

Out of context sound bite again, but not giving me warm fuzzies...
 
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If this thing is not solved soon, I can see the break up of Boeing.

The military stuff will be ring fenced but the commercial bit would be a separate company. They will bleed cash at this rate and the stock price will start to get affected once the results start coming through on the quarterly earnings statements.

Perhaps the only saving grace at this stage is that there’s a big back log for other planes that will keep the facilities busy.

Disaster for the company and for the brand which was always a watchword for aviation excellence.
 
The chart I used was slightly different. Generally it implied Vietnam and Canada slightly worse than Austraila this says if a climate change obsessive is how dare Canada be lived in. It also ignored Australia exports coal so if doing good science needs to be factored in.

BTW. The coal industry says it's better than gas. It's says in the ideal world gas is 2.7% better than coal. Because gas escapes during extraction coal of the most modern type better. They claim fracking seriously worse. Probably Thorium reactors look best all factors combined. UK has plenty of the ore. Unlike fussion it's reasonably possible. Remember 737 was trying to be part of this story of responsible energy use.

In my oppion kerosene is the ideal fuel and the 737 max is a supurb bit of design. Alas someone somewhere doesn't have the right priorities.

The Lockheed Starfighter like the 737 could get out of control. Some pilots mastered it. In a study a question was asked about if the Starfighter could have continued with fly by wire? The answer was yes and it would have outperformed most. Where it totally outperformed was cost. As the writer said, having a surplus of ultra high performance aircraft can only be good. Let me point out that the Avro Canada Arrow was a very remarkable aircraft. They even designed their own engines. The rest of the story you should read. NASA comes into it. One has to see the whole picture. Problems sometimes have complex causation. The Avro story is an eye opener. I chickened out of flying a F111. No lie. Not a simulator. I can't really tell you the rest.
 
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Perhaps. I would say the truth about this will take a while. I suspect it's lack of failsafe principles.

Before locomotives had good safety valves they were dangerous. They have to be like this to work. When a boy I saw a very sad loco draw beside me. An engineering type said not to be frightened as it would be fitted with a tested or new safety valve even to go for scrapping. Alas this seems to be the opposite here

737 is supurb aircraft with a sub standard team.
 
There is that but I think it is better to have a viable competitor.
Monopolies are never good.

Competition tends to help reduce prices but it doesn't always help quality.
Boeing (according to a TV program I watched) bought in cheap parts which didn't fit and had to be bodged to fit. The parts were supposed to be laser cut but instead were handmade and many of the holes didnt line up on the plane.

I guess it could be worse and be like the software industry where stuff is given away !
 
He was however per capita shows how much a society has to and could change if the will is exists.

There is no reason Canada should produce more CO2 per capita than Norway (9.4t) a large chunk of which lies within the arctic circle other than not making nearly enough effort to reduce them.

Have you looked at a map? When we drive to see the relatives 1 province over we drive 1000km. Is all of norway even that large. When goods from china hit the coast some need to be shipped 5000km! Its quicker for me in Vancouver to fly to London then our east coast, even in a Max.Have you looked at average temps. Norway in winter average temp is +2 celsius, there surounded by water. Couldnt find exact numbers but even slightly north of the 49th parallel I would bet the temps are colder. Calgary, Nov to march averages about -10 celsius.
 
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