This is a relatively new driver, a 4 inch "wide band woofer" which would probably be suitable as a midrange, which is what I'm considering. Anyone have any experience or opinion? The physical configuration looks to be a smaller knock-off of the Satori MW13P with not quite as elegant a finish, but with some of the same functional features.
I'm looking for a really good 4" midrange (who isn't?) after struggling with some mediocre polypro cone drivers for too many years.
Peace,
Tom E
I'm looking for a really good 4" midrange (who isn't?) after struggling with some mediocre polypro cone drivers for too many years.
Peace,
Tom E
Excellent driver
This is a great 4". I use it in my Manzanita CV as a mid-tweeter. You have to correct for the rising response if you use it too high. My only knock is I wished it were a couple of db more efficient. Highly recommended!
This is a great 4". I use it in my Manzanita CV as a mid-tweeter. You have to correct for the rising response if you use it too high. My only knock is I wished it were a couple of db more efficient. Highly recommended!
Great driver, easy to use and sounds very good too. FYI, it has been around longer than the Satori MW13P.
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In the same size and similar price range, have a look at Wavecor WF120BD03 (4 ohm) and WF120BD04 (8 ohm).
Thanks, D, I had a look at the Wavecor. What characteristic makes it a better choice? FR looks a little peaky, while efficiency, power handling, general specs appear to be about the same. Not trying to start an argument. We all have our favorites. Just wondering if there is a particular quality I'm missing. Sound great?
I like the physical configuration of the Vifa driver with its small neodymium magnet to cause fewer reflections of the back wave. Are you aware of any negatives?
Bonus: I can buy the Vifa driver from Madisound, in my home town. I've known Larry, the owner, for over 50 years and about a dozen speaker builds. Is the Wavecor readily available?
Peace,
Tom E
I like the physical configuration of the Vifa driver with its small neodymium magnet to cause fewer reflections of the back wave. Are you aware of any negatives?
Bonus: I can buy the Vifa driver from Madisound, in my home town. I've known Larry, the owner, for over 50 years and about a dozen speaker builds. Is the Wavecor readily available?
Peace,
Tom E
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The response peaks in the wavecor are well out of the band that a sane person would cross to a tweeter. I was simply suggesting it as another option, it is a great driver as is the NE123. You appear to have already made up your mind, but for future reference Wavecor are available at Meniscus and Solen.
Hi,
I used 2 in an MTM config with dayton RS28A. The 4 samples I got measured slightly different in 9k range and made a small difference in the modelled crossover response. I didn't get around to measuring the final result though. I think I may have gotten early production units but in any case they sounded very good. I'm not as big a fan of the larger units in the series but the 123 sound very detailed and natural.
I used 2 in an MTM config with dayton RS28A. The 4 samples I got measured slightly different in 9k range and made a small difference in the modelled crossover response. I didn't get around to measuring the final result though. I think I may have gotten early production units but in any case they sounded very good. I'm not as big a fan of the larger units in the series but the 123 sound very detailed and natural.
They are really great drivers. I've used both the NE123 and the NE180 in a design of my own and heard the NE225 in a two-way design with a waveguide loaded tweeter done by someone else. They definitely have a high-end sound.
Responding now to my own question.
Just completed a pair of mid/tweet boxes with a pair of the NE123W in each box.
After only a few hours of break-in, holy cow, these things are awesome. Such detail without any brightness. Well, perhaps just a bit of peakiness when running without an xover on the top end, so that can be easily fixed. I am using them for mids with a 1st order passive line level HP @ 400. I have never heard voices with such clarity and dynamics. I am reminded of Quads and other electrostatics.
This is just a dynamite driver.
Peace,
Tom E
Just completed a pair of mid/tweet boxes with a pair of the NE123W in each box.
After only a few hours of break-in, holy cow, these things are awesome. Such detail without any brightness. Well, perhaps just a bit of peakiness when running without an xover on the top end, so that can be easily fixed. I am using them for mids with a 1st order passive line level HP @ 400. I have never heard voices with such clarity and dynamics. I am reminded of Quads and other electrostatics.
This is just a dynamite driver.
Peace,
Tom E
Madisound have the 8 ohm on sale atm. Looks like a great midrange driver when crossed not much above 2khz
NE123's are the mids Curt and I used in the Statements II. Yes, they are and excellent driver and they will easily cross up to 4K. Try them, you'll like them a lot!
There are many, many reviews for feedback with a quick search.
Jim
There are many, many reviews for feedback with a quick search.
Jim
It's a really good 4" driver and recently used it in a small 2-way. Doesn't dig as deep as the SB12NRX25-4 but makes up for it in upper bass and mids.
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It's one of the old school Vifa Mid-range drivers.
Very close to the SEAS MCA 12RC
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/1_SEAS-3W-Classic-mkII/MCA12RC.pdf
A better driver than the PL11 IMO
Rabbitz disagrees
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/ScanSpeak-3WC-C/PL11MH09-08.pdf
