Graaf GM400. Speaker protection relay kicks in.

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I`ve had this problem since I bouth the amp. Got no help from Graaf as they went out of business short time after. As long as I play my music at low volume its working but as soon as I turn up the volume a bit the relay kicks in. And I have tried several preamps and cd players and its the same. I`ve tried to get in contac with Giovanni Marian and other people from Graaf wihtout any luck. Is there any of you out there that know of any people from Graaf that is stil doing some repair or can help solve this problem.
 
As with most Italian companies, you will not get support even from this manufacturer if one have technical questions - go to
Graaf GM20 mods - help!
and
Graaf Graafiti WTB One - Schematic needed
the main reason for this is that, in order to long-term reliability, none of the models has performed a good circuit design - so I think.
And the GRAAF developer know this.

That means, that also on this solid state model under
Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: GRAAF GM 400 power amplifier review
a circuit diagram is to be made with help of the disassembled main boards as first step, and in the second step, a circuit analysis has to be carried out in order to eliminate possible weak points.
Unfortunately I don't see a better way.
Maybe one of the members already do this and can upload the schematic.
Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: GRAAF GM 400 power amplifier review
 
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As with most Italian companies, you will not get support even from this manufacturer if one have technical questions - go to
Graaf GM20 mods - help!
and
Graaf Graafiti WTB One - Schematic needed
the main reason for this is that, in order to long-term reliability, none of the models has performed a good circuit design - so I think.
And the GRAAF developer know this.

That means, that also on this solid state model under
Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: GRAAF GM 400 power amplifier review
a circuit diagram is to be made with help of the disassembled main boards as first step, and in the second step, a circuit analysis has to be carried out in order to eliminate possible weak points.
Unfortunately I don't see a better way.
Maybe one of the members already do this and can upload the schematic.
Mono and Stereo High-End Audio Magazine: GRAAF GM 400 power amplifier review

Sorry to say but I think you hit the nail. But since the amp cost me a shitload of money I have to try to get it fixed, somehow. I`ve already made a new pcb layout with all the components with the right values and was thinking of making a schematic out of that. But my brain thinks its too complicated and will not cooperate. So yes, I hope someone have the schematic at hand.
 
Sorry to say but I think you hit the nail. But since the amp cost me a shitload of money I have to try to get it fixed, somehow. I`ve already made a new pcb layout with all the components with the right values and was thinking of making a schematic out of that. But my brain thinks its too complicated and will not cooperate. So yes, I hope someone have the schematic at hand.
Yes,I also had the same unwanted situation.
Nevertheless I have get success someday - go for examples to post #51+52 under
tweaking classic Linn LK1 & LK2 / LK280
or post #12 under
Omtec Mono Power Amplifier "CA 25" (CA25) - Schematic wanted
No global feedback. Just some local in the driver stage.
In case of a circuit topology without negative global feedback check out this URLs:
Power amplifiers without negative feedback
No - feedback amplifier
Thule Audio Vintage Integrated Amplifier IA-120 (IA120) Schematic wanted (post #9)
Maybe this helps a little while creating of schematic diagram.
 
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I`ve had this problem since I bouth the amp. Got no help from Graaf as they went out of business short time after. As long as I play my music at low volume its working but as soon as I turn up the volume a bit the relay kicks in. And I have tried several preamps and cd players and its the same. I`ve tried to get in contac with Giovanni Marian and other people from Graaf wihtout any luck. Is there any of you out there that know of any people from Graaf that is stil doing some repair or can help solve this problem.


Send an e-mail at Graaf,and someine solve your problem.
 
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