Cables - measurement and listening

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Why would you do that for? I don't see WTF it would change the sound.

A recent topic of discussion looked at different coloured wires having different pigments that may (or may not) have an effect upon playback sound quality.

This is part of the understanding that a playback system, from input to output, is in itself an electromagnetic entity subject to minute differences in the composition of materials within any part of the audio chain. Somewhat analogous to the 'butterfly flaps its wings and starts a hurricane'.

Whether pigments in wire alters playback sound is neither here nor there, but logic suggests that if it does make a difference, then physically identical wiring for both send and return of an audio signal is an entirely logical assumption.

I have no opinion on this, as I am still following and listening very carefully to what is being said.
 
The brain uses vision as an aid besides the hearing to locate and characterize the sound. Our vision actually has some processing power and if one closes the eyes, those processing power will be turned off.

It was known that speakers with white color will sound well brighter vs. black color speakers. In a well lit room, the sound will be perceived as brighter and more open vs darker room. If one closes one eyes, the sound stage won't be as clear or well defined when eyes opened.
 
The brain uses vision as an aid besides the hearing to locate and characterize the sound. Our vision actually has some processing power and if one closes the eyes, those processing power will be turned off.

It was known that speakers with white color will sound well brighter vs. black color speakers. In a well lit room, the sound will be perceived as brighter and more open vs darker room. If one closes one eyes, the sound stage won't be as clear or well defined when eyes opened.

Do you read wikipedia and then write your posts from memory?
 
A recent topic of discussion looked at different coloured wires having different pigments that may (or may not) have an effect upon playback sound quality.

This is part of the understanding that a playback system, from input to output, is in itself an electromagnetic entity subject to minute differences in the composition of materials within any part of the audio chain. Somewhat analogous to the 'butterfly flaps its wings and starts a hurricane'.

Whether pigments in wire alters playback sound is neither here nor there, but logic suggests that if it does make a difference, then physically identical wiring for both send and return of an audio signal is an entirely logical assumption.

I have no opinion on this, as I am still following and listening very carefully to what is being said.

But the guys who realy need the best wiring, Ligo, Nasa, etc are laughing so hard they fell on the floor.
 
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It was known that speakers with white color will sound well brighter vs. black color speakers. In a well lit room, the sound will be perceived as brighter and more open vs darker room. If one closes one eyes, the sound stage won't be as clear or well defined when eyes opened.
Now you definitely lost whatever credibility was left, at least on Audio matters.
Listening with your eyes indeed!!! :rolleyes:

I also understand why you find $1200 to $2400 better than $20 zipcord.
"Listening with your wallet" :D
 
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But the guys who realy need the best wiring, Ligo, Nasa, etc are laughing so hard they fell on the floor.
NASA doesn't appear to employ flights of fancy when it comes to the pigments in its cables!
 

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Max Headroom said:
There are many organic and inorganic pigments along with fillers, plasticisers and other agents used in pvc insulation, each will have an effect on electrical and magnetic properties of wire and cable assemblies.
There are many organic and inorganic pigments along with fillers, plasticisers and other agents used in pvc insulation, each will have a small effect on electrical and magnetic properties of wire and cable assemblies and almost certainly a negligible effect on sound.

The electrical properties of a shortish cable only have a small effect on sound. A small change in these properties will have an even smaller effect on sound. Hence all suitable cables will sound very similar. Any cable which sounds significantly different is almost certainly not suitable, however this may not be recognised as some people have an inbuilt bias towards 'non-conventional engineering' (i.e. bad engineering).
 
tapestryof sound said:
Whether pigments in wire alters playback sound is neither here nor there, but logic suggests that if it does make a difference, then physically identical wiring for both send and return of an audio signal is an entirely logical assumption.
No. Electrical theory says that if the wires are sufficiently different then you need the same arrangement for each channel; there is no requirement whatsoever for the send and return cables on one channel to be the same as each other. However, there is no particular reason (for speaker cables) why they should be different apart from ease of getting the phasing right at the two ends.

For unbalanced interconnects the two conductors are required to be different; the ground return must have low impedance and enclose the signal conductor (whose resistance is not very important). For balanced interconnects the two conductors should be as similar as possible.

This is all based on electrical theory; "logic" unconstrained by knowledge might give a different answer.
 
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