"...but is designed to improve the flow of electrons and PROTONS in circuit boards." J.B.
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JC said in his interviews that he's a physics engineer.
I'd like to know his opinions on that matter.
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JC said in his interviews that he's a physics engineer.
I'd like to know his opinions on that matter.
No, the 01>02 file changes are audible on several systems. Right now I am running Bluetooth link to Logitech speaker in the kitchen and the 01>02 differences are perfectly audible. Just half an hour ago I took the dogs for a walk and sat in a quiet natural bush spot using my Samsung phone as music player using internal speaker....the file differences are more apparent in this natural environment situation.Max. May-be YOU have a problem in your set that makes the difference ? (take this as an objective question)
I have been down the same speaker wire investigation/experimentation track and also concluded that preventing return/reflected energy (damping networks) is what matters .......cables still cause different sounds but not to nearly the same subjective magnitude.Let-me tell you a personal story. When the first time the "cable sound" story appeared in the audio litterature, I was very curious about it, because it was 'AGAINST' verified laws of physics. (too lazy to explain) So I made several tests -I' think I'm quite open minded and curious- to figure out what were the physical phenomena at work. This was at this time I suspected the impedance curve of the speakers VS cables + amps impedances. I tried to linearize my speaker impedance curve. Easy. Miracle: All the cables differences I could feel before had disappeared.
I have run carefully compensated two ways resistive load out to 40+kHz but nowadays I am agnostic to some degree because of laziness, periodic changeover of speakers and other ways of dealing with the consequences of harmonic currents/return energy. I well know and recommend the benefits of correct impedance compensation.......this is what Joe Rasmussen is advocating in his Elsinore speakers even if he is expressing it wrongly. As the ultimately lazy compromise I terminate the speaker lines at each end....75R or 100R or so at each cable end quenches/loads RF pickup and any chance of HF/RF ringing. This DC loading resistance does cause some system power efficiency loss, however the subjective benefit is great, with layer of 'haze' removed, worth the experiment. 0.6W MF are fine enough for low/med power levels and cost essentially zero.All my enclosures, since this time are flat in impedance all over the 20-40kHz bandwidth. And I'm now in the Peter J. Walker's camp: "I tend to prefer cables that conduct electricity.", adding "and that do not conduct my bank account to ground level".
I trust that you have good hearing, I do not question. Hearing has two facets.....absolute ability of the ear to transduce and encode information, and ability of the brain to decode and make sense of this information. Making sense of this information is a leaned skill and not fully innate. When two non-conceited (sound) engineers spend time discussing and demonstrating, knowledge is shared and then both are able to hear things that they did not notice before. For the home audio enthusiast, discussion and sharing knowledge of what to listen for can greatly help in appraisal and judgement of mixes/recordings and equipment/accessories/tweaks alike. Other forums and threads on this forum are able to discuss seemingly 'strange' subjects amicably and productively......why not this one ????. That is rhetorical question actually, I already know the answer and it is to do with Foxes and Hedgehogs.....the theory indoctrinated Hedgehogs self importantly believe that they know everything about and must guard what is actually f..k all, and the Foxes consciously keep one eye on a little of everything.PS: do not take for granted my poor personal hearing ability as responsible of my opinion. Take it with a pinch of consideration: It was confirmed as good enough during all my personal career. I often redo parts of the mixes that sounded perfect to the producers. Do not believe it is flaws in my system neither, it has been tuned during decades to criticise my own work, and I can feel flaws in my mixes that i was not able to hear in the studios. And I still live with my sins and my doubts.
If you listen again to the four folders I linked, I reckon you will find 01>02 files differences......think dynamic noise floor nature/stability, center image narrowness/stability and depth information clarity/stability. These are not frequency response related changes, ears young or old, naive or experienced should discern these properties changes natively alike. This paragraph is also for the information for those who are willing to invest a little time in listening to a few tunes done differently.I don't consider myself as exceptional, maybe you could consider my reports as not exceptional ? See what I mean ? By the way, all of the people that tried to listen to your files had made the same kind of reports, Not enough to make-you asking questions about your certainties ?
Dan.
Not so fast Scott, this is about proximity effects, so old hat to me. Yes, amplifier, cdp etc and systems can be changed by particular materials in proximity to or contact with cabinet, internal transformer, speaker magnets, lighting, wine, etc etc. If spintronics is the mechanism then so be it.He's moved on to spintronics, the gullible audio reviewers just suck it up it's stunning. What an insult to anyone with a brain. ByBeeTech Quantum Signal Enhancer
Dan.
Incredible. Soon we have proton FETs or tubes for Blowtroch Preamp Mark II. 😉"...but is designed to improve the flow of electrons and PROTONS in circuit boards." J.B.
Maybe, it's just that everywhere I look the frequency dispersion along the membrane is described as due to resonance, like any other mechanical systemI'll have a go & hope S&M will correct my mistakes.
Remember what we are talking about is bass note plucks, hence a limited frequency range, not a broadband signal.
The attack portion of the bass note pluck sound is the initial ramp up so the LF position on the basilar membrane will vibrate at that position causing the HCs to send nerve impulses along the auditory pathway.
I think what S&M means is that a fast attack will result in the specific LF area vibrating at an earlier time than would happen with a slow attack?
He's moved on to spintronics, the gullible audio reviewers just suck it up it's stunning. What an insult to anyone with a brain. ByBeeTech Quantum Signal Enhancer
Sometimes it's hard to tell if they are gullible or complicit.
The fact that some people are convinced and actually buy these things amazes me.
No, the 01>02 file changes are audible on several systems. Right now I am running Bluetooth link to Logitech speaker in the kitchen and the 01>02 differences are perfectly audible. Just half an hour ago I took the dogs for a walk and sat in a quiet natural bush spot using my Samsung phone as music player using internal speaker....the file differences are more apparent in this natural environment situation.
What does this natural environment have to do with anything?
It is quieter inside in many environments.
This is true, but I'm unclear how this changes things for you...Maybe, it's just that everywhere I look the frequency dispersion along the membrane is described as due to resonance, like any other mechanical system
The resonance has an amplitude dependent on the amplitude of the signal, and the amplitude changes with time and the neural response changes with the amplitude...
I'm confused about the confusion.
I'm having trouble understanding how the LF HCs react quickly to a fast attack.
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"Many sounds in everyday life, including speech and music, are broadband; the frequency components spread over a wide range and there is no well-defined way to represent the signal in terms of ENVp and TFSp. However, in a normally functioning cochlea, complex broadband signals are decomposed by the filtering on the basilar membrane (BM) within the cochlea into a series of narrowband signals.[9] Therefore, the waveform at each place on the BM can be considered as an envelope (ENVBM) superimposed on a more rapidly oscillating carrier, the temporal fine structure (TFSBM).[10] The ENVBM and TFSBM depend on the place along the BM. At the apical end, which is tuned to low (audio) frequencies, ENVBM and TFSBM vary relatively slowly with time, while at the basal end, which is tuned to high frequencies, both ENVBM and TFSBM vary more rapidly with time."
Remember what we are talking about is bass note plucks, hence a limited frequency range, not a broadband signal.
The attack portion of the bass note pluck sound is the initial ramp up so the LF position on the basilar membrane will vibrate at that position causing the HCs to send nerve impulses along the auditory pathway.
I think what S&M means is that a fast attack will result in the specific LF area vibrating at an earlier time than would happen with a slow attack?
The bolded terms above are not specific and may have different meanings to each of us.
The underlined sentence is important. If the envelope changes that will be detected (under certain specific conditions). If we agree "fast" is faster than "slow" (duh!) in MM's last sentence above, I agree with his quote above.
Sorry for the rushed response... gotta run... better explanation later.
This is true, but I'm unclear how this changes things for you...
The resonance has an amplitude dependent on the amplitude of the signal, and the amplitude changes with time and the neural response changes with the amplitude...
I'm confused about the confusion.
No confusion there. We are using non specific terms, as you say "fast" and "quickly" etc. To be clearer then, I'm using "fast" as in "frequency components present in the attack that would cause resonances in the HF end of the membrane earlier than the LF end
Try it and find out.What does this natural environment have to do with anything?
So what.It is quieter inside in many environments.
Dan.
If anyone is interested in music and why we do this audio stuff, I can recommend a great vinyl ‘Profonduer 4000’ by Shelter. Listened to it twice on my sons system this weekend - fantastic imaging and bass.
You can only get it on vinyl. Seriously good.
(Always amazed me just how well vinyl does deep bass! I have some Chick Corea stuff that rattles the windows at what must be <40 Hz)
You can only get it on vinyl. Seriously good.
(Always amazed me just how well vinyl does deep bass! I have some Chick Corea stuff that rattles the windows at what must be <40 Hz)
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Try it and find out.
So what.
Dan.
I see, just more delusion. I should have known better than to ask.
This affront to sanity! What is the English word for gibberish, but then much stronger?
There are many, but most to rude to post here 🙂. Apparantly my favourite has Irish origins.
... What is the English word for gibberish ...
In Dutch lingo that may be "Stier poep" 🙂
well it's on sound cloud..You can only get it on vinyl. Seriously good.
(Always amazed me just how well vinyl does deep bass! I have some Chick Corea stuff that rattles the windows at what must be <40 Hz)
As an odd sort who enjoys Organ music I may have a different definition of 'deep bass' to you. And no vinyl doesn't 'do it' well.
The question I am asking myself is "Do the famous Jack Bybee (Thank to J.C.) believes himself in his own, hum, products ?".He's moved on to spintronics, the gullible audio reviewers just suck it up it's stunning. What an insult to anyone with a brain. ByBeeTech Quantum Signal Enhancer
I asked myself the same question. I suppose yes, slightly ... as the material expanse with temperature ;-)"...but is designed to improve the flow of electrons and PROTONS in circuit boards." J.B.
Do protons move? | Physics Forums
JC said in his interviews that he's a physics engineer.
I'd like to know his opinions on that matter.
well it's on sound cloud..
As an odd sort who enjoys Organ music I may have a different definition of 'deep bass' to you. And no vinyl doesn't 'do it' well.
Pure opinion again.
This makes-me ask questions about the quality of your systems (digital source+amps).(Always amazed me just how well vinyl does deep bass! I have some Chick Corea stuff that rattles the windows at what must be <40 Hz)
If there is a domain where digital is totally perfect, it is in this band of frequencies. On vinyl, due to the high excursion of the grooves in the basses, and the resonance of the suspension of the head assembly, it is the domain where vinyl creates a lot of distortions and non linearity in the audible range.
Not to forget the bump of the analog tape-recorders in low frequencies, dues to the size of the heads.
NO, the distortion numbers and linearity of the response curves talk for themselves. No comment.Pure opinion again.
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There's some good bass to be had by using poor grounding techniquesPure opinion again.
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