have the infrastructure
That's likely also the case for the stone work restauration of the Notre Dame.
There's a vast number of stonemason companies in France, but they're all small businesses.
To finish the restauration work on the cathedral in a reasonable time frame, a large number of these companies would have to team up.
In a practical sense, that would require a large organisational/planning effort, which none of the companies has the experience and/or capacity for.
A 3d party would have to be contracted for that task (some French government department may likely be the worst pick)
Question also is whether any of the small French companies have invested heavily in software/hardware for 3D drawings and CNC manufacture that saves a lot of time (90 percent is crude labor that can be handled by CNC, leaving 10 percent for finishing detail work by hand)
I'll bet Swiss, Austrians, Italians... etc. never hired the Dutch to build big bells. You know, transporting up / over the Alps...
Eh? I thought the Alps had tunnels - tsk, silly me.
Solution:- cast smaller bells onsite, making for a nice gamelan orchestra for Quasimodo to groove out on.
ToS has expanded my musical knowledge!. . . making for a nice gamelan orchestra for Quasimodo to groove out on.
I had a hunch he would! 🙂
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Learning curve takes too long. Even then, you would need a conductor and it's much more involved than just pulling ropes to ring the bells.Solution:- cast smaller bells onsite, making for a nice gamelan orchestra for Quasimodo to groove out on.

Learning curve takes too long. Even then, you would need a conductor and it's much more involved than just pulling ropes to ring the bells.![]()
Ah, it seems the conversation is becoming serious ....... Quasi with smarts + gamelan = no problem.
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"Well you know, he's no Gary Burton, but...he gets around on 'em pretty good I guess."
(That should sort that.) 🙂
(That should sort that.) 🙂
My apology, the 36t one I mentioned is the heaviest swinging bell.
That makes sense.
In Asia they seem to hang the bells and whack them with a tree trunk.
Still I suppose standing close to a 100+ ton bell does a good job at scrambling you intestines. 🙂
I quite like gamelan, but it's stupid loud when they pull out the full setup.
There are different types you know, different styles. The note scales are also very different.
Hoping we can be part of a ceremony this summer, but it is kind of hard to plan for it. The stuff they set up for tourists is sort of mellowed out a bit.
There are different types you know, different styles. The note scales are also very different.
Hoping we can be part of a ceremony this summer, but it is kind of hard to plan for it. The stuff they set up for tourists is sort of mellowed out a bit.
I quite like gamelan, but it's stupid loud when they pull out the full setup.
There are different types you know, different styles. The note scales are also very different.
Hoping we can be part of a ceremony this summer, but it is kind of hard to plan for it. The stuff they set up for tourists is sort of mellowed out a bit.
I once saw a gamelan orchestra on a UK tour doing the real thing, and yes, they were unbelievably loud. One of the most incredible musical experiences I have ever witnessed. The multiracial urban audience went wild and crazy for them, taking the orchestra completely by surprise. They ended up doing two encores. I loved the microtonal tunings of the instruments, and from there on it changed my appreciation of all music completely. Quasi would have loved it.
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The thing is that the music they play is based on the surrounding setting and the type of ceremony involved etc.
You can not just go and get a specific piece played, playing a particular piece in the wrong setting is very bad/never going to happen.
So to hear a variation of different styles and pieces you'd have to join in on ceremonies in different temples at various locations, at different times of the year etc.
Very hard to reproduce Gamelan properly with a stereo setup, I consider it nearly impossible.
Church organs are easy in comparison, but 20-30 people bangin' away on a plethora of bells and pieces of wood or brass, throw in some flutes for good measure, and the volume! 😀
Pending on the type of ceremony they sometimes sell traditional sweets and have classic doll or shadow theatre in the same setting.
It's a very good experience.
You can not just go and get a specific piece played, playing a particular piece in the wrong setting is very bad/never going to happen.
So to hear a variation of different styles and pieces you'd have to join in on ceremonies in different temples at various locations, at different times of the year etc.
Very hard to reproduce Gamelan properly with a stereo setup, I consider it nearly impossible.
Church organs are easy in comparison, but 20-30 people bangin' away on a plethora of bells and pieces of wood or brass, throw in some flutes for good measure, and the volume! 😀
Pending on the type of ceremony they sometimes sell traditional sweets and have classic doll or shadow theatre in the same setting.
It's a very good experience.
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My understanding is that some choral works were composed for the reverberation time of particular cathedrals.
My understanding is that some choral works were composed for the reverberation time of particular cathedrals.
Absolutely correct. Arvo Part's 'Te Deum' comes to mind. It is on ECM.
Methinks Kaffiman is right about a gamelan orchestra being a bit too percussive and loud.
Oh well, it's the 21st century - anything could happen and probably will.
Gamelan loudness: Don't they have hearing troubles at these sound pressures ?
May be they play with hear plugs. 😀
Bag piping is quite something as well !
May be they play with hear plugs. 😀
Bag piping is quite something as well !
No maybe about it!May be they play with hear plugs. 😀
Bag piping is quite something as well !
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It's been brought up before. Since you are an architect, this should be a related topic.My understanding is that some choral works were composed for the reverberation time of particular cathedrals.
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