As well as us, when we try to make listening comparisons ;-)
The trade-off is to repeat the analysis with several short enough different samples, carefully chosen. Like we use to do ;-)
Bruno is clever.
Closed mind in operation here?
Yes that's the one. Some nice, polite adult level conversation on a topic. At least until page 3 where the armchair Toole bashers come out.
Nah. They are very, very good.
US listeners tend to prefer ‘forward’ sounding speakers (Revel, Magico, JBL) but the Brit sound is a bit more ‘reticent’ and I’d say ‘relaxed’.
Dali’s seem to be somewhere in between.
Just my observations.
Each to his own.
Peace.
“How about two uncorrelated noise sources passed through a brick wall filter set to c. 22 kHz and then through an amplification chain as a test?”
Correction: I meant to say an HPF filter with the lower bound set to 22 kHz.
Correction: I meant to say an HPF filter with the lower bound set to 22 kHz.
I have not read the paper but sub-sample shifting does not mean creation of more samples. It can be done with phase rotation in the frequency domain. From a brief look at the output of the process huge FFT's are used possibly as big as the entire sample (?).
Nice article T.
Funny he says that JBL and Revel follow the Toole frequency response model like the KEF’s but when you listen to them you get a different impression. I would never guess in any event that the KEF’s sloped off as much as they do.
I also use a sub with mine - but I doubt it’s anywhere near as well integrated as Mitchco’s set up - I just dialed mine in until I liked the sound.
Funny he says that JBL and Revel follow the Toole frequency response model like the KEF’s but when you listen to them you get a different impression. I would never guess in any event that the KEF’s sloped off as much as they do.
I also use a sub with mine - but I doubt it’s anywhere near as well integrated as Mitchco’s set up - I just dialed mine in until I liked the sound.
I think the wife would be quite happy if I decided to ditch the apogees for LS50s. I suspect Godzilla would have a field day poking the shiny bit in the middle though.
Nice, polite, adult .. like your answer ?
Apart from expressing your dislike to me, by systematically contradicting me in an agressive way, what you do regularly, that shows the quality of your "open mind", you would have, for once, an argument to oppose mine.
(do not take this trouble, I will not read your answer.)
Yes. for sure.
though the tweeter cant reproduce it.. it does produce heat and offset.
-RNM
You basically told horn owners if they don't like their horns then its their speakers at fault and get at me for being rude? PMSL
What surprised-me in this article is the curve of the differences is descending. I was expecting a clear increase around 20KHz as an effect of the bric wall filters and the fact that one wave have less and less samples as frequency increase.
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An exception to my resolution. (Curiosity, when you hold us ;-)
I bothered to write "I am sure that ..." and that means it was a personal and subjective opinion (I do not know anything of the systems used by people I do not know).
And the reason of this opinion is that the good horns (spherical waves and highly damped) are VERY rare on the market.
Most of the horns I had listened to (a lot) are just awful.
The second reason is I had never seen an owner of GOOD horns(or good waves guides) going back to cones. NEVER.
Ask Richard.
And your "PMSL" reveal a lot about your elegance, your friendly attitude and the way you design arguments when discussing a technical subject.
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Nobody on the planet has an amplifier that has thd curves like that.
I can say that with absolute certainty.
However, if you go to my gallery and click on the image labelled inductor R characterization, you will find a color version of that graph, but with the vertical axis label "resistance, ohms", and the legend on the right indicating which inductor and against copper or in air.
Um, Richard, your link pulled up the wrong picture...
John
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