Silver RCA Cable-share your experience, opinions here!

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I kind of like your stances about copper, silver, stones, raisers, diodes, etc... You can hear them all, good for you, although you must not be so happy about the amounts you have to spend to make your audio experience enjoyable.



At least you are not following the frustrating example of some your Golden Ear colleagues, trying to scientifically explain what they hear. Quantum effects, Maxwell daemons, perpetuum mobile, etc... nothing is off limits in their attempt to justify what is ultimately a personal experience (or improve sales). You hear what you hear, good for you, if anybody wants to follow your experience, so be it.

It's great when something measures good and it sounds good. But sounding good is the most important thing, and we all do not like the same thing in sound. To each his own. Nice post waly, fair and balanced.
 
Yes, every element/compound has it's own characteristic 'sound', some pleasing and some not, and some 'play nice' and some do not.

The problem is that 'just about everyone' believes that the above is not possible.
I asked questions in lectures and got told forcefully that cables/wires 'are not and cannot be directional'.
Because of this 'advice' I chased a channel imbalance problem for ages until I found the culprit....turns out shielded cable used as phono interconnect can be directional and was indeed the cause of the problem in this case.
Since then I no longer subscribe to this commonly held belief that cables 'cannot be directional' and have proven the opposite many times.
Averaging type meter/analyser will not reveal this directional characteristic, but ears can and do.


Dan.


I agree with you Dan, thanks for your input.
 
The tiny little chage in quality of solder will make a difference. And that’s only if applied on small percentage of the total solder joints on a voltage supply board, for example... it can be easily noticed. Component chages will have substantial influence on sound.

Everyone I know can easily tell the difference between a solid core copper and solid core silver power cable. Especially people who play musical instruments - they are really quick and spoton with regard to how close to real thing a cable can sound.

Various types of power cables, interconnect and speaker cables, and their mix, can tune the whole system to sound very good and meet individual listening preferences.

Good info. Thanks for sharing your findings Extreme_Boky. I like finding the components that work best in my app like you do.
 
Cables are directional ... of course ... why wouldn't they be if you have a plug on one end and a socket on the other ???? Good thing too or we'd be electrocuting ourselves all the time.

You can make a directional cable of sorts ... increase the diameter of the wire as you progress down the cable, lowering its resistance one way and increasing it the other ... providing of course that the neutral and phase conductors preference goes the opposite direction and it continues to get bigger as you go around the loop.
 
Maxwell's equations are a good start. LIGO uses them, Speakers use them. CD players use them. Even mobile phones use them. Same science, different engineering.

Right, different engineering
So now show us the scientific measurements used in the engineering of audio systems which demonstrates your statement where you put up auditory perception against SCIENCE "that can measure 1/10,000th the width of a proton changes in space time"?
 
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"burnt in"? Guess you 're joking. You just CANNOT really believe that, right?

I 've been working within electronics as a professional for about 20 years. But never have I even heard of the idea to "burn in" any cable.

Search the web, companies are making devices to do just this. Just about every high end cable vendor will recommend burn in of their cables. Some reviewers request 100hr burn in from the companies that build the products to be reviewed. I have heard the effect of burn in.
 
Cables are directional ... of course ... why wouldn't they be if you have a plug on one end and a socket on the other ???? Good thing too or we'd be electrocuting ourselves all the time.
I am starting to see how cables CAN be directional ... some of my USB adapter cables are directional too ... ;-)


About the diode recovery: That is an old problem, as old as diodes are. Main idea: The recovery current spikes are timewise spaced at 1 / 100Hz or 1/ 120Hz, plus they contain multiples / harmonics of those line frequencies. If you hear hum or buzz, diodes are one of many possible ways, how hum can get into the audio signal chain (one of MANY). Good systems have no hum or hum at -110dB. And if no hum, then you just do not care about diode recovery. So how would diodes affect the sound if they do not add noise in a well-designed system?
 
I am starting to see how cables CAN be directional ... some of my USB adapter cables are directional too ... ;-)

Funny you should say that - with high speed signalling the characteristic impedance of the cable should be consistent throughout the length of the cable. Do you think the engineering tolerance of the usual cables used in such transmissions are consistent throughout their length?

Reflections occur when the signal encounters such impedance changes throughout the cables length.These reflections will have a characteristic profile because it meets a series of impedance changes throughout the cable length. Change the cable around & this series of impedance changes is reversed & will now be at different distances from the transmitter & the profile & timing of the reflections arriving back at the transmitter will be different.

Does this change the sound? I don't know but the mechanism is understood & known.
 
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Search the web, companies are making devices to do just this. Just about every high end cable vendor will recommend burn in of their cables. Some reviewers request 100hr burn in from the companies that build the products to be reviewed. I have heard the effect of burn in.


Some companies are making "magic stones" or pendulums or whatever. Just about every "earth rays" nut will recommend to use what he is peddling. Some of them request furniture to be moved in order to have their devices "working properly" or other adjustments. Many think they have benefited from doing so.


And why companies do that? Guess what : The "burn in" is part of their "story" that the cables are "special" or "valuable". Many people will need some extra "careful handling recommendations" in order to believe in all of this. Only if they believe, will the $$$ come the way of the company.
 
Funny you should say that - with high speed signalling the characteristic impedance of the cable should be consistent throughout the length of the cable. Do you think the engineering tolerance of the usual cables used in such transmissions are consistent throughout their length?
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I mean the USB cables that have Type B on one end and Type A on the other - they are directional since I just cannot use them in the other direction.


High speed signalling is a completely other world with all the reflections that you can have of just too low bending radius and the characteristic impedances etc..


High speed signalling is MATCHED impedance-wise to sender and receiver impedance, otherwise reflections occur.

Audio signal cables like RCA are driven low-ohmic and go into a high impedance input. That and the low frequencies involved make audio signal cables soooo uncritical. Change the length, the diameter of the conductor, the material, bend it or cut it and solder the pieces together - there will just be NO ANY difference in audio tranmsmission.
 
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