I am hunting for an old Adire Shiva because I have a MKII with a Bash 500s amp and absolutely love it. I found a MKI but cannot remember the difference between the two versions (or III or IV). Does anyone else remember? Some internet searching does not yield much info (probably too long ago, hard to believe these subs are almost 20 years old!).
Keep in mind, this was one of the first woofers that Parts Express copied. IIRC, the Titanic was made in the same factory (Eminence) to the same specs.
The Brahmas that came later were made by a build house in Vegas, which became Fi Car Audio.
The Brahmas that came later were made by a build house in Vegas, which became Fi Car Audio.
Differences in the T/S parameters of all four Mks.
There was one more Shiva (an entire series of different sizes up to 15", in fact) that was due to come out with XBL^2 (along the lines of the DPL-12, but with lower Mms), but then Chile happened. There might be some of those floating around as prototypes, but they never sold commercially, afaik.
There was one more Shiva (an entire series of different sizes up to 15", in fact) that was due to come out with XBL^2 (along the lines of the DPL-12, but with lower Mms), but then Chile happened. There might be some of those floating around as prototypes, but they never sold commercially, afaik.
Man, Avatar Audio...that makes me feel old. I remember back when folks on the bass list were posting about how their single Shivas were supposedly cracking drywall, etc. Back when 12" subs were the monsters, 15"s were scarce and 18"s were nigh mythical and only for the most extreme basshead. But, things change, designs have improved and the hobby has progressed to bigger and more powerful drivers.
Shivas were copied by many - the Parts Express DVC12 is essentially the same driver
Dayton Audio DVC310-88 12" DVC Series Subwoofer but they don't sell it any more...
probably the closest they have now is: Dayton Audio RSS315HF-4 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm
Dayton Audio DVC310-88 12" DVC Series Subwoofer but they don't sell it any more...
probably the closest they have now is: Dayton Audio RSS315HF-4 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm
The Titanic wasn't the copy. It was the Dayton DVC-310-88 subwoofer. Basically it was the Shiva with push terminals and slightly better cosmetics.
If you want to see what a 10" version looks like, look for the ACI-SV10. And that one has a rubber, not a foam, surround. Still the driver for my main HT subwoofer.
Basically if you didn't care too much about looks and you wanted to move some serious air for cheap, these were the drivers to go for.
You are correct!
I'm REALLY digging back in the memory banks, but for some reason I recalled that the Parts Express Titanic was a clone of something. I vaguely recall it was from NHT.
There was a speaker company similar to Madisound in California, that's long gone, named "Just Speakers" IIRC. They offered the NHT woofer for sale, and the PE Titanic was a copy.
Again, this goes back something like 25 years.
The NHT 3.3 has a 12" woofer, but I don't think it's the same one. The one that PE copied has a paper cone IIRC:
NHT 3.3 loudspeaker Specifications | Stereophile.com
About ten years ago, a big stash of NHT drivers appeared out of nowhere, and I remember there were a bunch for sale at that time.
On a side note, every time I see an MCM 55-2421, it reminds me of what an 8" version of the Shiva would've looked like. Still a screaming deal at $30, if you can figure out how to build a box that's small enough to hold it lol
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Personally i prefer the solder terminals.
My favorite 10” is the CSS SDX10 which has been resurrected and i understand will start shipping again next week.
dave
Not out of no-where, they were left-overs from the shutting down of NHT. Sold by Hindley of NHT. I grabbed a whack of the Foster plat-amps — still have a few.
dave
I believe that you're referring to the NHT1259, which was design with sealed enclosures in mind (though that didn't stop one or two DIYers from trying them out in large vented enclosures). It was a popular woofer at the time for DIYing. I'm not sure however if the Titanic can be considered a clone of that driver.
Thanks for the great discussion everyone, I had no idea about the Dayton variants of the Shiva design. I like the idea of buying something newer with a warranty and less "years" on the foam parts.
So I ended up with a Wavecore SW310WA02 from Solen.ca. It was their last one and marked down 80% so I couldn't resist the temptation. I am LOVING it. I know Wavecor is a licensed XBL^2 manufacturer, and this sub sounds a lot like a Shiva on steroids.
Here's the link to the specs. It sounds GREAT open baffle, and I plan to put it in a big sealed enclosure:
http://www.wavecor.com/SW310WA02_specifications.pdf
Here's the link to the specs. It sounds GREAT open baffle, and I plan to put it in a big sealed enclosure:
http://www.wavecor.com/SW310WA02_specifications.pdf
Wavecor drivers are fantastic and extremely underrated. While they may be licensed as a build house to manufacture XBL^2 motors, none of their drivers utilize this technology as far as I know. Their big thing is the balanced drive motor, which extends the pole piece toward the dust cap to create a more symmetrical magnetic geometry about the rest position. It seems to be very effective based on bench tests and listening tests.
Very cool, thanks for the info. I can confirm that, it sounds amazing! I think they still have an 8 ohm model on sale if anyone is lucky enough to snag it.
Need some info, in 2003 I bought two 12" subs for a 2ch system that didn't work out (changed speakers) so my son took them and put them in storage (never used them) so this weekend he is moving, so guess what I got the subs back.
I believe they are Adire Shiva's but not sure, will appreciate any info.
I believe they are Adire Shiva's but not sure, will appreciate any info.
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I personally have 2 batch Shiva drivers in sono tube subs.
Bob from CSS and I designed sold these sono tube kits. The Sonos were shipped from Adire as Adire got these for a OEM but the tubes were the wrong size. So Bob Dan Wiggins and myself come up with the design.
Then Bob CSS and I sold the kits with the Shiva as passive or Active amp dependant.
Also tried a few other drivers in the same tuned configuration. The Shiva was tuned to 19hz in these tubes.
I still have the pair of Sono tubes in my ht today.
Yes for sure the above photo sure looks like the dpl 12from Adire.
Boy I was at Adire and helped unload the Chile drivers arrive. Dan was speechless. Skids of drivers all leaning over repackaged. Not the way he had packaged them in Chile. So many memories going down to learn spend time with Dan.
Tubekit465 | wrn2 | Flickr
Bob from CSS and I designed sold these sono tube kits. The Sonos were shipped from Adire as Adire got these for a OEM but the tubes were the wrong size. So Bob Dan Wiggins and myself come up with the design.
Then Bob CSS and I sold the kits with the Shiva as passive or Active amp dependant.
Also tried a few other drivers in the same tuned configuration. The Shiva was tuned to 19hz in these tubes.
I still have the pair of Sono tubes in my ht today.
Yes for sure the above photo sure looks like the dpl 12from Adire.
Boy I was at Adire and helped unload the Chile drivers arrive. Dan was speechless. Skids of drivers all leaning over repackaged. Not the way he had packaged them in Chile. So many memories going down to learn spend time with Dan.
Tubekit465 | wrn2 | Flickr
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