No.
The effects of cryogenic treatment can be repeatably demonstrated and is well documented unlike most snake-oil stuff.
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Of course, cryoing, when done right can work, but then it has been a long time since WW1 when they introduced it by necessity, because apparently, stock submarine hatches could not take the pressure.
According to Jack Bybee, his purifiers were invented and used by the military 40 or more years ago due to a need to quiet certain submarine electronics in order to listen for other submarines. It was the 'Cold War' and both sides did anything to get an advantage. They were much more expensive, much more complicated, and worked at very low temperatures back then, and very secret. Many decades later Jack thought to try to use the basic principle that he had invented for audio with some success, and the rest is history.
According to Jack Bybee, his purifiers were invented and used by the military 40 or more years ago due to a need to quiet certain submarine electronics in order to listen for other submarines. It was the 'Cold War' and both sides did anything to get an advantage. They were much more expensive, much more complicated, and worked at very low temperatures back then, and very secret. Many decades later Jack thought to try to use the basic principle that he had invented for audio with some success, and the rest is history.
Cold treatment of race car engines goes back at least to the 60s, and treatment of airplane engines to the 30s.
I can't find anything on submarine hatches, artillery shells or projectiles though.
I can't find anything on submarine hatches, artillery shells or projectiles though.
At least you are searching now for information. Yet how many of you have taken cryoing seriously?
There is a huge difference in take cryo treatments seriously in the field of metal hardening and taking cryo treatments seriously in the context of audio components. A more uniform crystal structure of the metal might have some interest in high stress/wear situations. Not to audio cables.
A lot of snake oil products use a legitimate technical basis but apply it to an irrelevant situation.
Even so, it's still a controversial technique in the tooling industry.
A lot of snake oil products use a legitimate technical basis but apply it to an irrelevant situation.
Even so, it's still a controversial technique in the tooling industry.
Exactly.
Many here Know the correct use of various techniques so
it makes it quite laughable when someone tries to BS us.
That tends to make Everything that person says be counted as pure BS.
And what's more, " what is clear is that they offer measurable and proven results without any negative effects". But there must have been a press glitch -- for some reasons said measurements and proven results didn't make it onto the web page.
We studied cryo treatment in my Strengths and Materials class back in the late 70s. Not much was said about it in class back then, but it did hold promise for heat (cold) treatment of ferrous metals. Non-ferrous metals were not discussed IIRC.
I'm still skeptical about some claims, and wonder if some products are not even treated, but claims are made to dupe the uninformed.
I made a new mat from cork/neoprene gasket material. I built it up in layers so it is thinner under the label and at the edge, I used flexible silicone adhesive to stick the layers together. It works very nicely.
All this naysaing about BQP and the like.
All elements and compounds have individual dynamic signatures.
These individual signatures add and interact culminating in the 'sound' of equipment and systems.
Mixtures of certain elements have relatively strong influence and effectively 'erase' upstream sounds when suitably applied in systems.
This is why for example connectors, and power, interconnect and speaker cables can alter the sound of a system though the effect is relatively slight due to poor/uniformed choice of materials.
Strongly influencing materials alter the sound of systems quickly (in seconds) but not perfectly instantaneously and lesser influencing materials can take much longer....the burn in effect.
Just sayin'
Dan.
All elements and compounds have individual dynamic signatures.
These individual signatures add and interact culminating in the 'sound' of equipment and systems.
Mixtures of certain elements have relatively strong influence and effectively 'erase' upstream sounds when suitably applied in systems.
This is why for example connectors, and power, interconnect and speaker cables can alter the sound of a system though the effect is relatively slight due to poor/uniformed choice of materials.
Strongly influencing materials alter the sound of systems quickly (in seconds) but not perfectly instantaneously and lesser influencing materials can take much longer....the burn in effect.
Just sayin'
Dan.
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Try using a vinyl record as platter mat.
Different vinyl formulations sound fundamentally different. .....try old 78's as plater mat.
Dan.
Different vinyl formulations sound fundamentally different. .....try old 78's as plater mat.
Dan.
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