Moode Audio Player for Raspberry Pi

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DRONE7

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mhouston said:
With my USB I2S DIY DAC I get a muted click between tracks. Was worse on Rune and Vol. but it really doesn't bother me. If I go from 24/96 files to DSD64 files there is a more pronounced click. Once more I'm happy to ignore it.
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Have you turned on the Uac2 fix in Moode config system page ?
It can help with usb 2.0 dacs and xmos cards
My xmos to i2s has no clicks at all with this set.

Also possible your diy dac doesn't have mute enabled ? I have an es9018K2m official supported device with no clicks as it has mute enabled in firmware. I also have some cheap Chinese es9018K2m that don't have ess firmware support and they do click between tracks on occasion.
 
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DRONE7 said:
Have you turned on the Uac2 fix in Moode config system page ?
It can help with usb 2.0 dacs and xmos cards
My xmos to i2s has no clicks at all with this set.

Also possible your diy dac doesn't have mute enabled ? I have an es9018K2m official supported device with no clicks as it has mute enabled in firmware. I also have some cheap Chinese es9018K2m that don't have ess firmware support and they do click between tracks on occasion.
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I've turned it on. It still plays DSD64 so all good so far.
 
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Jjazz

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Hi, I passed a very strange thing with my Allo Piano 2.1 (with kali and without connected kali).

Moode is functioning properly. I close MoOde, but when another day or at any other time I turn on and play music volume has a huge gain(moode alsa is 123% when it should be at 100%), and alsamixer says he is more than 200%.

If the volume at the beginning this 23% is correct, sounds 23%, but its you climb to 24% is as if it sounded to 84% although mark 24%, although alsa Yes says 84%

In addition stronger hears the left channel to the right, despite the fact that alsamixer says that they are on the same volume.

I do not rule out that it is a hardware problem if this does not happen to anyone more.

Thanks
 
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remy1961

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TheOldPresbyope said:
I got tired of using old computers as my NAS and didn't really want to use an RPi or other SBC with an external USB2 drive. Then I saw the new Odroid-HC1 (here in the USA, at ameridroid.com) and couldn't resist.

My order arrived this afternoon. Here's a snap of it + a 250GB SATA SSD sitting on a 2CD case to give you a sense of scale. I set mine up with Open Media Vault on Debian 8 but it can run a fair variety of distros.

Fast, compact, reasonable power (I bought a 5v/4a supply at the same time); Ethernet only but that's what I wanted. I'm not sure where I want it to end up so I'm not worrying about an enclosure yet.
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Hi,
This could be the way to go for me if i am convinced that the raspberry usb is so "crap" that it is an obstacle to sound quality. I serve music to moode using a hard drive connected to raspberry usb. The other problem is that to add music to the drive i have to open the case and connect the hard drive to the computer. With a NAS it will be easier to add music to the drive.
Better sound quality + easier file management will be a strong reason to use this sort of NAS as music server instead of usb hdd.
Personally i don't believe the raspberry usb can alter sound quality. A "crap" usb connection can slow the transfer of data, but it can't change those 1 and 0 that make the content of the data. The question is: is the raspberry usb too slow to properly transfer large FLAC, DSD or AIFF files to the player?

Remy
 
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TheOldPresbyope

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remy1961 said:
Hi,
This could be the way to go for me if i am convinced that the raspberry usb is so "crap" that it is an obstacle to sound quality. I serve music to moode using a hard drive connected to raspberry usb. The other problem is that to add music to the drive i have to open the case and connect the hard drive to the computer. With a NAS it will be easier to add music to the drive.
Better sound quality + easier file management will be a strong reason to use this sort of NAS as music server instead of usb hdd.
Personally i don't believe the raspberry usb can alter sound quality. A "crap" usb connection can slow the transfer of data, but it can't change those 1 and 0 that make the content of the data. The question is: is the raspberry usb too slow to properly transfer large FLAC, DSD or AIFF files to the player?

Remy
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Hi, Remy.

The spec for USB2.0 is 480Mbits/sec, ca 60Mbytes/sec. I don't know if the RPi interface reaches that speed but this is powers-of-ten faster that our audio rates. You could time some large file copies to/from a USB drive to test it.

The potential issue is the RPi's shared USB/Ethernet controller.

If you want to test this interface issue without buying new gear, why not set up "the computer" you're copying your music files from as a SMB or NFS server? That would be equivalent to me running OMV on my Odroid-HC1.

FWIW, my music collection is almost entirely FLAC-encoded.

Regards,
Kent
 
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TimCurtis

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pbarna said:
I purchased Moode, it's running well. I have to congratulate the author for his work, many settings available, advanced kernels included. I use the Low Latency one, coming from volumio and rune, I have to say this is the best sound quality of the three. Keep up the good work!
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Hi,

Thanks for the nice compliment :)

The Advanced audio kernels are built by @Soundcheck and reflect his extensive knowledge and expertise in Linux audio. You can enjoy his many interesting threads here at diyAudio.

-Tim
 
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TimCurtis

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Jjazz said:
Hi, I passed a very strange thing with my Allo Piano 2.1 (with kali and without connected kali).

Moode is functioning properly. I close MoOde, but when another day or at any other time I turn on and play music volume has a huge gain(moode alsa is 123% when it should be at 100%), and alsamixer says he is more than 200%.

If the volume at the beginning this 23% is correct, sounds 23%, but its you climb to 24% is as if it sounded to 84% although mark 24%, although alsa Yes says 84%

In addition stronger hears the left channel to the right, despite the fact that alsamixer says that they are on the same volume.

I do not rule out that it is a hardware problem if this does not happen to anyone more.

Thanks
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Very odd.

What version of moOde?

-Tim
 
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supertrioe

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TimCurtis said:
Hi Jon,

The symptom "insert a special kernel, with the same settings as version 3.7, I crash the Playback page" suggests something external to moOde software for example a bad or corrupt SD card, etc.

You can erase blocks of tracks or the all the tracks on the Playback panel by clicking the item menu then "Remove item(s)". Use the >> buttons to set the beginning and ending track numbers.

-Tim
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Thanks for the answer and the instructions.
I will replace the SD card, which for your experience is the most reliable.
Greetings
Jon
 
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TheOldPresbyope

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TheOldPresbyope

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Hi, Tim.

Now that I'm adding substantially more files to my NAS in batches, it seems to me that I've seen differences in the album count in the Library view depending on whether I only Rescan the Music Sources after I've added the files or I also Reset the Library cache so it is rebuilt the next time the Library is opened. Is there a functional need for both actions? (...and yes, I've tried forcing a page reload ignoring browser cache).

Regards,
Kent

PS: moode r3.8.4 updated from r3.8.3
 
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repairmatt

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Hi, Tim,

I am experiencing a weird problem, I just updated to the latest version of Moode and since my DAC doesn't support DSD I'm using the DSD to PCM conversion. Whenever I play a DSD file it sounds like it's sped up, like a 33 record on the 45 setting. I've tried several DSD files, all DSD64 and they all do the same thing, it never did this with 3.6. I am using the advanced real-time kernel. Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
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TimCurtis

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TheOldPresbyope said:
Hi, Tim.

Now that I'm adding substantially more files to my NAS in batches, it seems to me that I've seen differences in the album count in the Library view depending on whether I only Rescan the Music Sources after I've added the files or I also Reset the Library cache so it is rebuilt the next time the Library is opened. Is there a functional need for both actions? (...and yes, I've tried forcing a page reload ignoring browser cache).

Regards,
Kent

PS: moode r3.8.4 updated from r3.8.3
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Hi Kent,

Normally after you add music files to a source you would run UPDATE and then only open the Library panel after the update completes otherwise the Library cache will be incomplete. The RESET lib cache function is for just that scenario.

RESCAN builds the MPD database from scratch.

There could be a bug in the Javascript code that tallies the counts but I'd need some way to repro an issue. I've not noticed it on my end.

-Tim
 
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TimCurtis

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repairmatt said:
Hi, Tim,

I am experiencing a weird problem, I just updated to the latest version of Moode and since my DAC doesn't support DSD I'm using the DSD to PCM conversion. Whenever I play a DSD file it sounds like it's sped up, like a 33 record on the 45 setting. I've tried several DSD files, all DSD64 and they all do the same thing, it never did this with 3.6. I am using the advanced real-time kernel. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Hi,

To troubleshoot, start by installing the Standard Linux kernel and then re-testing.

What DAC are u using?

-Tim
 
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